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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    how to get HUGE - next tip

    MK677 with Insulin - increase growth factors and appetite


    so a lot of guys struggle to put on size simply because they can't get enough calories in, especially quality calories. they have a crap appetite. I'm one of those guys. I can easily fast for days or get by on just one meal per day. when I'm eating 6 meals per day its because I'm forcing myself too, or I'm using this protocol.

    MK677 - 25mg at night and 25mg in the AM . now sure this is going to increase your HGH and IGF levels and help you grow, but its also going to greatly increase your appetite via its Ghrelin attributes. you'll likely be ravenous and be able to eat a ton more then you could before.

    Insulin - 10iu three to four times per day. now sure this is going to be synergetic with the MK and the increased HGH levels and thus force more hepatic output of IGF,, but its also going to fuel your appetite some and help drive all those nutrients your taking in. your blood sugar levels will begin dropping after taking the 10iu and that will signal for hunger and desire to eat.. and if you don't eat you'll go hypo and pass out. so thats a bit of motivation there

    added benefit from these, cortisol suppression (a catabolic hormone). you'll be limiting gluconeogenisis, where the liver is breaking down proteins to convert to glucose (as cortisol plays a role in this process) ,, so you'll have more available proteins and you won't be breaking down muscle tissue to use as fuel.
    this is one of many reasons I may have a client running insulin even when cutting.

    side note - MK677 is hyperglycemic and Insulin is of course Hypoglycemic . so they help counter balance each other. theres also less chance of going hypo running slin if your running MK with it twice daily.. when I run MK I can wake up first thing in the morning and shoot 10iu of slin and only take in a protein shake and not go hypo , but when not running MK and I do this I have to have carbs with it.. because the MK is hyperglycemic and freeing stored glucose in the liver into the blood stream to be constantly available for energy. MK will cause your blood sugar to be about 20 points higher on average
    Unrelated question regarding higher hepatotoxic compounds (such as tren, sdrol, etc):
    If a cycle is run with such compounds, that towards the end your body is spending a lot of energy trying to fight the toxicity as opposed to building muscle and gains slow down. So it's usually best to save such compounds for the last 4 weeks or so of the cycle. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    Unrelated question regarding higher hepatotoxic compounds (such as tren, sdrol, etc):
    If a cycle is run with such compounds, that towards the end your body is spending a lot of energy trying to fight the toxicity as opposed to building muscle and gains slow down. So it's usually best to save such compounds for the last 4 weeks or so of the cycle. Thoughts?
    if your getting toxic and its effecting your ability to eat, train hard, sleep, and recover, etc.. then progress will hault and you'll be spinning your wheels. its completely fine to just pull the plug on the cycle and just cruise for a little while and get back to feeling good and restart (unless your like 6 weeks out from a show and you just need to grind it out cause you have to get shredded)..

    now to avoid this, I generally do phase cycling and compound rotation. that way you can 'detox' from those harsh compounds yet continue with your cycle..

    so for example
    weeks 1-4 your running Anadrol and weeks 1-6 Tren
    then after those 6 weeks I pull those out completely and in week 7 I start up say Primo and higher dose Test (both of which are not toxic).. then run that for about 5 weeks then add in Var at a moderate dose, say 30mg.. the Var is an oral but its not 'toxic' (its actually been prescribed to treat liver disease because of its regenerate properties)..
    then later on I may rotate in some Superdrol, which is Toxic and only run that for 4 weeks . then after that I may pull all those compounds out and run some LGD40 and just a TRT dose of test.

    by rotating compounds your able to detox to a certain degree yet continue to stay anabolic and fairly healthy .. you just have to know which compounds negatively effect you and which compounds you feel great on

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    if your getting toxic and its effecting your ability to eat, train hard, sleep, and recover, etc.. then progress will hault and you'll be spinning your wheels. its completely fine to just pull the plug on the cycle and just cruise for a little while and get back to feeling good and restart (unless your like 6 weeks out from a show and you just need to grind it out cause you have to get shredded)..

    now to avoid this, I generally do phase cycling and compound rotation. that way you can 'detox' from those harsh compounds yet continue with your cycle..

    so for example
    weeks 1-4 your running Anadrol and weeks 1-6 Tren
    then after those 6 weeks I pull those out completely and in week 7 I start up say Primo and higher dose Test (both of which are not toxic).. then run that for about 5 weeks then add in Var at a moderate dose, say 30mg.. the Var is an oral but its not 'toxic' (its actually been prescribed to treat liver disease because of its regenerate properties)..
    then later on I may rotate in some Superdrol, which is Toxic and only run that for 4 weeks . then after that I may pull all those compounds out and run some LGD40 and just a TRT dose of test.

    by rotating compounds your able to detox to a certain degree yet continue to stay anabolic and fairly healthy .. you just have to know which compounds negatively effect you and which compounds you feel great on
    GH I am very Leary of running an oral with my test, HGH and slin. I know I beat up my liver etc back in the days between AAs and drinking. Is anavar really beneficial for the liver? I have tons of it but am afraid to take it because I don’t want to harm my liver. I’ve heard HGH has regen properties for organs but I had not heard that about Var.

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