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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    oh, I have nothing against primo. I only mentioned Masteron because you brought up liking superdrol, and superdrol is just an oral version of Masteron.
    just a quick addition here .. on paper superdrol is a 17 alka version of masteron (in regard to chemical makeup),, but this completely alters the drug because of all the enzymatic processes brought about by the liver . heck our livers are like magic, they can turn proteins into carbohydrates and all sorts of other cool shit.. the liver does the same thing with drugs .
    Dbol is nothing more then oral EQ (in chemical makeup),, but we all know these drugs respond totally different in the body once converted in the liver.
    Methyl-Tren has the same chemical makeup as Tren (just methylated), yet works totally different in the body.

    superdrol is the same way. its a way different drug then masteron due to its 17 alka and the way its processed by the liver. so much so that Masteron is essentially an androgen (thats why I put it in androgen phases of cycles) and Superdrol is not androgenic at all and is a super strong anabolic (superdrol probably has the highest anabolic to androgenic ratio of any steroid out there).


    so point being, methylation and what the liver does with a drug (even if same chemical makeup) can completely alter and make essentially a whole new drug . just like the liver can convert protein into carbs. again EQ and Dbol are the exact same drug on paper (one is oral one is injectible), yet they are totally different drugs in practical use purposes

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    just a quick addition here .. on paper superdrol is a 17 alka version of masteron (in regard to chemical makeup),, but this completely alters the drug because of all the enzymatic processes brought about by the liver . heck our livers are like magic, they can turn proteins into carbohydrates and all sorts of other cool shit.. the liver does the same thing with drugs .
    Dbol is nothing more then oral EQ (in chemical makeup),, but we all know these drugs respond totally different in the body once converted in the liver.
    Methyl-Tren has the same chemical makeup as Tren (just methylated), yet works totally different in the body.

    superdrol is the same way. its a way different drug then masteron due to its 17 alka and the way its processed by the liver. so much so that Masteron is essentially an androgen (thats why I put it in androgen phases of cycles) and Superdrol is not androgenic at all and is a super strong anabolic (superdrol probably has the highest anabolic to androgenic ratio of any steroid out there).


    so point being, methylation and what the liver does with a drug (even if same chemical makeup) can completely alter and make essentially a whole new drug . just like the liver can convert protein into carbs. again EQ and Dbol are the exact same drug on paper (one is oral one is injectible), yet they are totally different drugs in practical use purposes
    I stand corrected.
    Now I’m very confused as to how the injectable dbol I use to get worked. It worked immediately, so was it just Boldernone suspension? It acted like dbol, not EQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    I stand corrected.
    Now I’m very confused as to how the injectable dbol I use to get worked. It worked immediately, so was it just Boldernone suspension? It acted like dbol, not EQ
    injectible Dbol is the exact same thing as oral dbol, its just "blended up" into an injectable solution . there is ZERO modification happening at the structural level of the drug.

    its like snorting a line of coke in powder form,, or boiling the same line of coke on a spoon and then injecting it . its the same drug.


    when you modify or methylate a drug with 17 alka, thats when the liver treats it and processes it as a completely different drug


    injectible dbol is still just dbol

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    its funny you should mention this though .. I have two bottle of injectible Anadrol . I shot 50mg today.. that shit is damn painful. I'm like why the hell am I injecting this stuff when I got the best oral Anadrol on the planet from Iran..
    whatever, I'll probably end up doing both . but either way the injectible Andarol is just oral anadrol being administered in injectible form (its still just as liver toxic and 17 alka)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    its funny you should mention this though .. I have two bottle of injectible Anadrol . I shot 50mg today.. that shit is damn painful. I'm like why the hell am I injecting this stuff when I got the best oral Anadrol on the planet from Iran..
    whatever, I'll probably end up doing both . but either way the injectible Andarol is just oral anadrol being administered in injectible form (its still just as liver toxic and 17 alka)
    The more I learn, the more I learn that I know nothing *Face palm*

    my whole reasoning for having injectable dianabol was because I was (incorrectly) under the impression that it wasn’t liver toxic because it wasn’t oral, and I wanted to smash 100mg a day for like 12 weeks.

    oh well I guess I’m still alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    The more I learn, the more I learn that I know nothing *Face palm*

    my whole reasoning for having injectable dianabol was because I was (incorrectly) under the impression that it wasn’t liver toxic because it wasn’t oral, and I wanted to smash 100mg a day for like 12 weeks.

    oh well I guess I’m still alive
    yep its just regular Dbol and is 17 alkalated and will get processed the same way as the oral dbol . main difference is you may get more mg per mg out of your dose with the injection version being its carried to the blood steam apart from the intestinal tract . so 30mg of inject Dbol may be equal to 50mg of oral dbol . but your liver don't know that. its processing it the same way no matter how it gets there

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    yep its just regular Dbol and is 17 alkalated and will get processed the same way as the oral dbol . main difference is you may get more mg per mg out of your dose with the injection version being its carried to the blood steam apart from the intestinal tract . so 30mg of inject Dbol may be equal to 50mg of oral dbol . but your liver don't know that. its processing it the same way no matter how it gets there
    I thought it was less toxic bc injectable involved one less pass through the liver somehow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    I thought it was less toxic bc injectable involved one less pass through the liver somehow?
    this is true in theory .. but the only pass that really matters is the 'blood pass' through the liver anyhow.

    take 10,000mg of acetaminophen in oral form . you'll likely go into liver failure..

    NOW .. take 10,000mg of acetaminophen by crushing it up and shooting it instead of swallowing it . you'll likely go into liver failure even quicker.

    the blood pass is the most toxic one to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    I thought it was less toxic bc injectable involved one less pass through the liver somehow?
    Regardless of their make up... They are equally toxic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    just a quick addition here .. on paper superdrol is a 17 alka version of masteron (in regard to chemical makeup),, but this completely alters the drug because of all the enzymatic processes brought about by the liver . heck our livers are like magic, they can turn proteins into carbohydrates and all sorts of other cool shit.. the liver does the same thing with drugs .
    Dbol is nothing more then oral EQ (in chemical makeup),, but we all know these drugs respond totally different in the body once converted in the liver.
    Methyl-Tren has the same chemical makeup as Tren (just methylated), yet works totally different in the body.

    superdrol is the same way. its a way different drug then masteron due to its 17 alka and the way its processed by the liver. so much so that Masteron is essentially an androgen (thats why I put it in androgen phases of cycles) and Superdrol is not androgenic at all and is a super strong anabolic (superdrol probably has the highest anabolic to androgenic ratio of any steroid out there).


    so point being, methylation and what the liver does with a drug (even if same chemical makeup) can completely alter and make essentially a whole new drug . just like the liver can convert protein into carbs. again EQ and Dbol are the exact same drug on paper (one is oral one is injectible), yet they are totally different drugs in practical use purposes
    Man u need your own forum man I would be there daily for knowledge.

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