View Poll Results: better gains from dropping AI usage

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  • I've dropped AI usage and gotten better gains

    11 68.75%
  • I've dropped AI usage and not noticed anything

    2 12.50%
  • I'm not about to drop AI usage

    3 18.75%
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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    With the RIGHT dosage of AI I look better and feel better and I don't think my gains are hindered at all.
    is the "right dosage" of an AI , while blasting and on cycle , a dosage that puts your estrogen in normal range ?

    how do you know thats actually a "right dosage" .. if your on a heavy cycle and your androgen levels are 20x normal , why do you think you'd need to keep your E levels at 0x normal range ?

    especially when you consider the evidence that when androgen levels are sky high, estrogen levels should follow, and when they do follow they provide a lot more anabolic mechanisms of action in the body.


    the "normal range" of estrogen as shown on blood work is for "normal people" ,, ie, your 70 year old neighbor who does not lift let alone take steroids. that range does not apply to us especially when we are on cycle and upregulating hormones and so many other processes in the body.


    edit - I'm all for keeping estrogen in 'normal range' when off cycle when we are actually 'normal' and that range fits us . but if your blasting 3 grams of gear and your androgen levels are off the charts,, keeping estrogen in "normal range" is highly likely to be counter productive to the anabolic properties your trying to enhance by being on cycle to begin with (unless your E sensitive and you don't have a choice)
    Last edited by GearHeaded; 09-06-2019 at 01:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    is the "right dosage" of an AI , while blasting and on cycle , a dosage that puts your estrogen in normal range ?

    how do you know thats actually a "right dosage" .. if your on a heavy cycle and your androgen levels are 20x normal , why do you think you'd need to keep your E levels at 0x normal range ?

    especially when you consider the evidence that when androgen levels are sky high, estrogen levels should follow, and when they do follow they provide a lot more anabolic mechanisms of action in the body.


    the "normal range" of estrogen as shown on blood work is for "normal people" ,, ie, your 70 year old neighbor who does not lift let alone take steroids. that range does not apply to us especially when we are on cycle and upregulating hormones and so many other processes in the body.


    edit - I'm all for keeping estrogen in 'normal range' when off cycle when we are actually 'normal' and that range fits us . but if your blasting 3 grams of gear and your androgen levels are off the charts,, keeping estrogen in "normal range" is highly likely to be counter productive to the anabolic properties your trying to enhance by being on cycle to begin with (unless your E sensitive and you don't have a choice)
    He never responds to a question on here but once in a blue moon.
    Just kinda spouts the old status quo and floats along.
    Part of the reason I've no respect for him.

    If he responds it will be about the third time here in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    He never responds to a question on here but once in a blue moon.
    Just kinda spouts the old status quo and floats along.
    Part of the reason I've no respect for him.

    If he responds it will be about the third time here in history.
    Lol!

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    Well I’m actually in a category you didn’t list. I’m group 4-lucky enough to have trusted GH from the start and never ran an AI at all. I figured especially since I’ve always been pretty lean I wouldn’t have issues with aromatizimg too much.(although from what I’ve read gyno is really totally genetic and an AI won’t really change that at all. Either your predisposed or not) I got up to 1000mg of test which seemed like a dose I would never actually do cuz that seemed like a crazy amount lol. But ran NO AI for the entire 6 month cycle and I’m glad I didn’t. I don’t think I will ever use one

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