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    Quote Originally Posted by zigzagzig View Post
    What do you think would be a good dosage for a second cycle?
    If I was to do it over again I would run 500mg test and 1000mg EQ. I know that seems like a crazy amount but you gotta remember EQ has nearly 0 side effects. I read a very interesting article saying that eq doesn’t start to shine until you get to the 1.5-3gram range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    If I was to do it over again I would run 500mg test and 1000mg EQ. I know that seems like a crazy amount but you gotta remember EQ has nearly 0 side effects. I read a very interesting article saying that eq doesn’t start to shine until you get to the 1.5-3gram range.
    I never had high hemotocrit until eq.

    Thats a crazy statement.
    The ways AAS cause the elevation are still not fully known as of 2018.

    I wouldnt venture out to get a newbie to run that high of a dose.

    700 took me to 183/107 bp.

    Everything is individual specific

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I never had high hemotocrit until eq.

    Thats a crazy statement.
    The ways AAS cause the elevation are still not fully known as of 2018.

    I wouldnt venture out to get a newbie to run that high of a dose.

    700 took me to 183/107 bp.

    Everything is individual specific
    I wasn’t suggesting OP use a G of EQ. I was saying I would do that if I was to do it over. It’s so mild!! Plus having high hemocrit on its own isn’t a bad thing at all. You think elite endurance athletes have normal hemo?? Why do you think so many cyclists use EPO and other blood doping techniques? Same reason to increase their capacity to carry oxygen in the blood therefore increase endurance.

    Anyways op can do whatever he wants but with eq there’s no reason to go less than 800mg in this situation imho. He’s using it as the primary anabolic in his planned next cycle. So I don’t see any reason to go low on the eq. I would say eq is maybe half as strong as test at best...

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    I just wouldn’t use EQ in a two compound cycle, unless it was a cruise.

    Trade it out for DHB. Trade it out for Primo. Trade it out for Deca.

    You could add EQ into the mix with any of those. I just wouldn’t use it as my primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    I just wouldn’t use EQ in a two compound cycle, unless it was a cruise.

    Trade it out for DHB. Trade it out for Primo. Trade it out for Deca.

    You could add EQ into the mix with any of those. I just wouldn’t use it as my primary.
    Can’t argue with this at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    I wasn’t suggesting OP use a G of EQ. I was saying I would do that if I was to do it over. It’s so mild!! Plus having high hemocrit on its own isn’t a bad thing at all. You think elite endurance athletes have normal hemo?? Why do you think so many cyclists use EPO and other blood doping techniques? Same reason to increase their capacity to carry oxygen in the blood therefore increase endurance.

    Anyways op can do whatever he wants but with eq there’s no reason to go less than 800mg in this situation imho. He’s using it as the primary anabolic in his planned next cycle. So I don’t see any reason to go low on the eq. I would say eq is maybe half as strong as test at best...
    It is in no way comparable with epo and the offsets took my bp to over 180

    No absolutely not, no one needs to make the correlation that an endurance athlete and a bb on heavy aas is any way the same.

    Endurance athletes build their tolerance to lactic acid and their muscles dont require a tenth the oxygen to get the same movement done.

    Understand...

    The mechanisms by which AAS increases hematocrit is still unknown as of 2018.

    Now people can make assumptions all the want but when my hematocrit is elevated I am bordering a cardiac event.

    I have taken more nors than most here will ever dream of and never once had hematocrit outside of mid range.

    A little stent of eq at 700mg caised my power red to be rejected and my bp to prevent me from donating the first time I tried.

    No.... High hematocrit is no good for me.

    You realize why my power red was rejected?
    My blood would have plugged their centrifuge up.

    Yeah... Sounds healthy as fuck lol
    Last edited by Obs; 10-22-2019 at 07:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    I wasn’t suggesting OP use a G of EQ. I was saying I would do that if I was to do it over. It’s so mild!! Plus having high hemocrit on its own isn’t a bad thing at all. You think elite endurance athletes have normal hemo?? Why do you think so many cyclists use EPO and other blood doping techniques? Same reason to increase their capacity to carry oxygen in the blood therefore increase endurance.

    Anyways op can do whatever he wants but with eq there’s no reason to go less than 800mg in this situation imho. He’s using it as the primary anabolic in his planned next cycle. So I don’t see any reason to go low on the eq. I would say eq is maybe half as strong as test at best...
    I might call you a gh parrot if you keep looking at me in that tone of voice

    Btw, eq has been the most useless compound I ever touched. Thus far I was always told by the old status quo:

    #1 EQ elevates hematocric more than any compound you will find.

    #It is basically useless.

    So far it has rang true. Not that I wanted them to be right.

    We are all different and thats probably why you shouldnt assume elevated hematocrit is a good thing. Especially when you dont know what causes it and sure dont seem to understand what it does to me.

    Total blood volume always seemed to be an issue for me but nothing compared to my last donation.

    I couldnt move without sweating a gallon and nearly blowing my heart up.
    Last edited by Obs; 10-22-2019 at 07:50 PM.

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