First competition prep

[bobspix]

I understand and thank you for the reply. I am aware of cutting steroids. I don't want to feed money to a coach who will just sell me bunk/fake gear and fill his own pockets while I lay in hospital bed fighting for my liver. coaches around me are of such nature and I have seen many athletes fall in this trap so I am skeptical and want to do it by myself as far as I can. I have already recomped myself (gained muscle, lost fat and went from 32.5 inch waist to 28.5) so I am a bit confident(maybe delusional) in myself. Do you live in India because 23rd nov is the exact same date of a big show here?

[GearHeaded]

I understand and thank you for the reply. I am aware of cutting steroids. I don't want to feed money to a coach who will just sell me bunk/fake gear and fill his own pockets while I lay in hospital bed fighting for my liver.

this is an odd statement..I don't know of any coaches that sale gear to their clients or prescribe dangerously high dosages of orals. most coaches have their clients best interests and health in mind more then the client even does for himself . idk, maybe its different in India.

Coaches can be beneficial in more then just the dieting and AAS usage process. where things can get really tricky and complicated is the time going into the show, the drying out process. losing body fat is one thing, but getting super dry and hard and losing all that water while still maintaining muscle fullness all at the same time can be quite tricky. you have to time things down to the very hour your going to stand on stage (when I'm getting someone ready to step on stage I'm generally in contact with them every couple of hours and looking at update pics multiple times per day and make adjustments on the fly)

this is often where people doing it themselves blow it. not only do they not peak, they often times end up hurting themselves or even killing themselves (happens every year at bodybuilding shows). they think that all they need to do is take a diuretic and stop drinking water. well one mistake they make is taking a diuretic and pulling out water AND salt. they then end up cramping so bad they never make it to stage.. or worse yet, the end up taking potassium sparing diuretics (because they read those are safer and won't cause cramps) and their blood levels of potassium start to shoot up, THEN when they go to carb load they load up on carbs that have a ton of potassium in them like potatos and bananas . before they know it they go into cardiac arrest due to hyperaklemia (high blood potassium). again happens every year.

having someone behind your back with detailed knowledge about how water manipulation strategies and diuretics work is a good idea.
lets say you did take too much potassium sparing diuretic and your blood potassium was getting way too high . what are you going to do? heck if you call an ambulance they are going to arrive and more then likely they are going to give you an IV bag because they thing your dehydrated (which you are), but that IV bag is going to contain potassium. within minutes they will end up accidentally killing you.
where as on the other hand a knowledgeable coach, knowing your exact protocols , will tell you to take a Lasix and shoot 10iu of insulin (that together will drive your blood potassium back down). the paramdecs would never of thought to do this and they would not have those drugs with them anyhow. your coach just saved your life

just little details like that can be a matter of life or death. let alone just trying to peak just right on stage.

if guys are going to coach themselves and peak for the stage. I recommend guys not really even mess around with trying to 'dry out' or even touch diuretics . sure your not going to look your absolute best and you'll hold some amount of water.. but its better then messing around with stuff that you have no clue how it works and end up hurting yourself.
I know of a few people this year that died at the show cause they did not know what they were doing with water manipulation and diuretics

[GearHeaded]

now in regards to a contest prep cycle . I strongly recommend the phase cycling approach for contest prep .

heres a very rough example of what that may look like . your going to start about 16 weeks out.
phase 1 - anabolic and volumization phase
phase 2 - androgen phase
phase 3 - androgen plus anti estrogen anti cortisol phase

Weeks 1-8
Test 1000mg
Eq 600mg
Primo 600mg
Anadrol 50mg (weeks 1-5)

weeks 9-12
Test 500mg
Mast 600mg
Tren 600mg

weeks 13-16
Test 250mg (pulled out week 14)
Mast 600mg
Tren 600mg
Winny 50mg day
Halo 10mg day

if you have the money Primo can be ran in the background the whole time

T3 will start at 25mcg from day 1 and ramp up to 50
Clen will start week 8 at only 20mcg and ramp up to 80

fasted cardio would be used with 5mg yohimbe, 2iu of HGH


thats a rough example . I don't think picking just a couple cutting drugs and using those for a whole 16 week con prep cycle is optimal . compound rotation is going to work much better


note - dosage are just "examples" only , not a recommendation to you personally

[JaneDoe]

now in regards to a contest prep cycle . I strongly recommend the phase cycling approach for contest prep .

heres a very rough example of what that may look like . your going to start about 16 weeks out.
phase 1 - anabolic and volumization phase
phase 2 - androgen phase
phase 3 - androgen plus anti estrogen anti cortisol phase

Weeks 1-8
Test 1000mg
Eq 600mg
Primo 600mg
Anadrol 50mg (weeks 1-5)

weeks 9-12
Test 500mg
Mast 600mg
Tren 600mg

weeks 13-16
Test 250mg (pulled out week 14)
Mast 600mg
Tren 600mg
Winny 50mg day
Halo 10mg day

if you have the money Primo can be ran in the background the whole time

T3 will start at 25mcg from day 1 and ramp up to 50
Clen will start week 8 at only 20mcg and ramp up to 80

fasted cardio would be used with 5mg yohimbe, 2iu of HGH


thats a rough example . I don't think picking just a couple cutting drugs and using those for a whole 16 week con prep cycle is optimal . compound rotation is going to work much better


note - dosage are just "examples" only , not a recommendation to you personally

Why does your cutting cycle have 3 phases?


A volume phase within the cutting cycle itself.
Hmmm, you don't start the cycle with trenbolone. You just include it in the androgenic and antiestrogenic phase with the addition of masteron

[GearHeaded]

Why does your cutting cycle have 3 phases?

ok so phase 1 -- the purpose of this phase , anabolic volumization phase. when your first starting prep your just beginning to go into a calorie deficit . we want to not only preserve as much muscle as we can when going into a deficit , we also want to 'volumize' the muscle as much as possible here. that means load the muscle cells up with water, nutrients, minerals, etc.. this will make the muscle be full and healthy going into the deep parts of prep. this is why Test is high here and we also have EQ and Aandrol which help with both blood and muscle volumization .

we are NOT using any cosmetic drugs at this point. just mainly anabolics .

as we get closer to the show though we will be switching over to more cosmetic drugs

phase 2 - that androgen phase . this is where we start going after cosmetic effects and getting the visual look we want as our body fat levels have dropped and we begin a bit of the drying out phase. androgens are great at this. they also help you with energy and aggression in the gym which your going to need when your this deep into prep

phase 3 - we need the androgens and the cosmetic effects here for sure , BUT we also at this point need to start dropping estrogen levels and lowering cortisol levels . so the Androgens get higher (halo is added in with tren and mast) which will counter act estrogen, and the estrogen gets lower by simply dropping the test (no need for AI's), AND when you've been dieting this hard and long your cortisol levels are likely elevated too, which will make it hard to get off that last little bit of fat and water , so we add in an anti cortisol drug , either Cytadren or Winstrol .


thats the basics of why 3 phases

[GearHeaded]

I look like garbage right now. struggling with some health issues .. but I guarantee you that if I took a gram of Tren for 2 weeks, and 800g of carbs per day, and did two a day training sessions ,, within two weeks it would look like I just did a 16 week transformation (utilizing tren suspension and tren ace)

[GearHeaded]

Why does your cutting cycle have 3 phases?


A volume phase within the cutting cycle itself.
Hmmm, you don't start the cycle with trenbolone. You just include it in the androgenic and antiestrogenic phase with the addition of masteron

Tren is an extremely efficient cosmetic drug . its the one drug that can drastically change your look very quickly .. we want to save that for closer to the show. theres no point in using it for its cosmetic effects from week 1 of the prep when your still fat and out of shape

[bobspix]

now in regards to a contest prep cycle . I strongly recommend the phase cycling approach for contest prep .

heres a very rough example of what that may look like . your going to start about 16 weeks out.
phase 1 - anabolic and volumization phase
phase 2 - androgen phase
phase 3 - androgen plus anti estrogen anti cortisol phase

Weeks 1-8
Test 1000mg
Eq 600mg
Primo 600mg
Anadrol 50mg (weeks 1-5)

weeks 9-12
Test 500mg
Mast 600mg
Tren 600mg

weeks 13-16
Test 250mg (pulled out week 14)
Mast 600mg
Tren 600mg
Winny 50mg day
Halo 10mg day

if you have the money Primo can be ran in the background the whole time

T3 will start at 25mcg from day 1 and ramp up to 50
Clen will start week 8 at only 20mcg and ramp up to 80

fasted cardio would be used with 5mg yohimbe, 2iu of HGH


thats a rough example . I don't think picking just a couple cutting drugs and using those for a whole 16 week con prep cycle is optimal . compound rotation is going to work much better


note - dosage are just "examples" only , not a recommendation to you personally

Damn GH I don't think any coach here would be so knowledgeable. I will try at least. Thank You tho.

[bobspix]

this is an odd statement..I don't know of any coaches that sale gear to their clients or prescribe dangerously high dosages of orals. most coaches have their clients best interests and health in mind more then the client even does for himself . idk, maybe its different in India.

Coaches can be beneficial in more then just the dieting and AAS usage process. where things can get really tricky and complicated is the time going into the show, the drying out process. losing body fat is one thing, but getting super dry and hard and losing all that water while still maintaining muscle fullness all at the same time can be quite tricky. you have to time things down to the very hour your going to stand on stage (when I'm getting someone ready to step on stage I'm generally in contact with them every couple of hours and looking at update pics multiple times per day and make adjustments on the fly)

this is often where people doing it themselves blow it. not only do they not peak, they often times end up hurting themselves or even killing themselves (happens every year at bodybuilding shows). they think that all they need to do is take a diuretic and stop drinking water. well one mistake they make is taking a diuretic and pulling out water AND salt. they then end up cramping so bad they never make it to stage.. or worse yet, the end up taking potassium sparing diuretics (because they read those are safer and won't cause cramps) and their blood levels of potassium start to shoot up, THEN when they go to carb load they load up on carbs that have a ton of potassium in them like potatos and bananas . before they know it they go into cardiac arrest due to hyperaklemia (high blood potassium). again happens every year.

having someone behind your back with detailed knowledge about how water manipulation strategies and diuretics work is a good idea.
lets say you did take too much potassium sparing diuretic and your blood potassium was getting way too high . what are you going to do? heck if you call an ambulance they are going to arrive and more then likely they are going to give you an IV bag because they thing your dehydrated (which you are), but that IV bag is going to contain potassium. within minutes they will end up accidentally killing you.
where as on the other hand a knowledgeable coach, knowing your exact protocols , will tell you to take a Lasix and shoot 10iu of insulin (that together will drive your blood potassium back down). the paramdecs would never of thought to do this and they would not have those drugs with them anyhow. your coach just saved your life

just little details like that can be a matter of life or death. let alone just trying to peak just right on stage.

if guys are going to coach themselves and peak for the stage. I recommend guys not really even mess around with trying to 'dry out' or even touch diuretics . sure your not going to look your absolute best and you'll hold some amount of water.. but its better then messing around with stuff that you have no clue how it works and end up hurting yourself.
I know of a few people this year that died at the show cause they did not know what they were doing with water manipulation and diuretics

Thanks GH, I know my statement is odd and in bad taste as far as coaches go but here in India, these are just money hungry wolves. They charge $40 for a test vial and the brand is 100% shitty/fake. There are good coaches available online in India I'd rather trust than these fools. One of them was like "You GOT to take HGH for your first cycle since it's gains are permanent and its safest zero sides".

And GH, the things you said that people do themselves that risks health severely like the diuretic part, I shit you not these coaches around me RECOMMEND this shit. That's why I have a hardtime trusting them. I'd rather get an online coach to guide me.