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    The funny thing is, this isn’t really new information in retrospect. Even reading texts from a decade or more ago, I’m seeing plenty of stuff on how holding estradiol down is not only going to limit your gains, but it’s going to make the negative cardiovascular effects of AAS even worse, since you’re not getting the protective effects of estrogen on lipids.
    Why this is taking so long for this to work its way in is beyond me.
    We even have plenty of respected doctors in the HRT field talking about how crushing estrogen is killing the very guys that HRT is trying to help.

    It gets even worse when you start talking about supraphysiologic levels of AAS. Ever notice how the ones that aromatize the least are the hardest on your lipids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    The funny thing is, this isn’t really new information in retrospect. Even reading texts from a decade or more ago, I’m seeing plenty of stuff on how holding estradiol down is not only going to limit your gains, but it’s going to make the negative cardiovascular effects of AAS even worse, since you’re not getting the protective effects of estrogen on lipids.
    Why this is taking so long for this to work its way in is beyond me.
    We even have plenty of respected doctors in the HRT field talking about how crushing estrogen is killing the very guys that HRT is trying to help.

    It gets even worse when you start talking about supraphysiologic levels of AAS. Ever notice how the ones that aromatize the least are the hardest on your lipids?
    You made primobolan feel very upset..
    Good point here, most of the heavy androgens fuck up the lipids.
    But I think what makes the difference is androgen/estrogen ratio. I had high estrogen and tried everything to reduce it, and know what, lowering estrogen didn't help me with my problems. Whenever I introduced some androgen load (high test?) to balance out my high (relative to lab references ofc) E2, I started feeling much better.
    Having high androgen load and low E2 isn't good either unless you know what you're doing, i.e. contest prep or cutting etc.
    Our body works best in homeostasis (or equilibrium so to speak) so avoiding fluctuations is a good thing to start with.

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