Anavar Oxandrolone

[i_SLAM_cougars]

well I'll put it this way .. if I could only choose one hormone to take for the rest of my life just for pure bodybuilding purposes (not TRT purposes) and I had to pick from either 200mg of test per week or 50mg of Anavar only per day . I'd go with the Var.

yes you can make very good quality gains with Var , ran for a long enough duration (its a pure 'anabolic', so it does not have much cosmetic effects, it simply helps build pure muscle tissue .. where as test is an 'androgen' and has more temporary cosmetic effects)..

now my ideal advice would be to run Test and Var together . but by itself, Var at 50mg per day is pretty potent muscle builder ( = to over 1000mg of test, minus the estrogen and water retention)

Var without test is still going to build muscle,, but hpta shutdown will eventually occur and being hypogonadal will slow down gains (mainly cause your estrogen will drop to zero). so a test base is definitely recommended, but not required (if you cycle on and off for short durations over a long period of time)

some guys don't think Var is very potent. this is likely cause they are getting fake Var, or they are not running it long enough at a high enough dosage.

So what you’re saying is that you should take 1000mg of test, and 50mg of Var, and it’s kind of like taking 2000mg of test, except better.

*Noted*

[GearHeaded]

So what you’re saying is that you should take 1000mg of test, and 50mg of Var, and it’s kind of like taking 2000mg of test, except better.

*Noted*

yep, adding 50mg of Var a day to any cycle is going to increase the anabolic load of that cycle by 1000+ mg equivalent of test

[Cuz]

yep, adding 50mg of Var a day to any cycle is going to increase the anabolic load of that cycle by 1000+ mg equivalent of test

Wow! I guess considering the anabolic rate of the two right?

[GearHeaded]

Wow! I guess considering the anabolic rate of the two right?

yes , Var is 3-6x more anabolic then test and thats even WITHOUT the androgenic and estrogen aspects of test (androgen load and estrogen load carry their own anabolic properties) . so thats what I mean when I say things like "Var is a 'pure' anabolic" . its 100% anabolic without androgens or estrogens helping out

[Cuz]

yes , Var is 3-6x more anabolic then test and thats even WITHOUT the androgenic and estrogen aspects of test (androgen load and estrogen load carry their own anabolic properties) . so thats what I mean when I say things like "Var is a 'pure' anabolic" . its 100% anabolic without androgens or estrogens helping out

Pretty sure the first and only time i ran it i got fucked and got winstrol, pretty sure it was fake anavar. Shitty online domestic source...

I never thought of it like that, id much rather run var than a gram of test considering how estro sensitive i am.

[IronLiver]

yep, adding 50mg of Var a day to any cycle is going to increase the anabolic load of that cycle by 1000+ mg equivalent of test

What about combing winstrol and dbol / anadrol and maybe some deca for a similar anabolic load?

[GearHeaded]

What about combing winstrol and dbol / anadrol and maybe some deca for a similar anabolic load?

funny you ask . I got a client I just got done talking to 20 mins ago . and we are doing exactly that . 25mg Winstrol at night, Dbol pre workout , and Deca (probably add some Primo too) .. this is for a transition phase.

so yes . great combos there and they all provide unique secondary characteristics (Winstrol cortisol suppression, Dbol/Drol nutrient uptake into muscle cells, Deca anabolism along side anti inflammation support)

[IronLiver]

funny you ask . I got a client I just got done talking to 20 mins ago . and we are doing exactly that . 25mg Winstrol at night, Dbol pre workout , and Deca (probably add some Primo too) .. this is for a transition phase.

so yes . great combos there and they all provide unique secondary characteristics (Winstrol cortisol suppression, Dbol/Drol nutrient uptake into muscle cells, Deca anabolism along side anti inflammation support)

Why the Winstrol at night?

[GearHeaded]

Why the Winstrol at night?

in this situation we are mainly using Winstrol to blunt Cortisol and gluconeogenis (which generally happens during your 8-10 hour fast while sleeping) .. in the morning with meal one he will be having Carbs and some Insuligen which will then blunt Cortisol and gluconeogensis in the morning. so winstrol at night and Insulin during the day to keep Cortisol in check

[kelkel]

yep, adding 50mg of Var a day to any cycle is going to increase the anabolic load of that cycle by 1000+ mg equivalent of test

One of the many reasons I love my scripted var.