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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I am looking to do the opposite.
    I am gonna try moving back to lower doses.
    I just dont know what to run with what.
    A lot of guys have talked up mk677.
    Sil praised it always for long term use.
    I think I need to move to lower dose and get off the stims and just maintain. I am going to kill myself before I get the time to devote to be where I want.

    I have neglected my health way too long.

    Gonna have to start matching my dose to get by like bg said. Blasting grams and grams being dehydrated and busting ass is gonna get me lol.

    Now you're thinking. Your body needs a break. Your CNS needs a break. Every time I come off a cycle, and I've never really done the massive cycles I read about here, my body feels like it can just breath again. It seems to relax, reset and refresh itself. For months now I've been running just TRT test and low dose deca/var in effort to heal up and just take a break. Actually just started MK last night as well.

    Obs my point is that you only have one body. Take care of it. Give it some rest, take some time off from the gym and do some of the things you don't normally get the chance to do. It will do you good. Evaluate things during this time and come back recharged and ready to make progress.

    ps: get some blood work done as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Now you're thinking. Your body needs a break. Your CNS needs a break. Every time I come off a cycle, and I've never really done the massive cycles I read about here, my body feels like it can just breath again. It seems to relax, reset and refresh itself. For months now I've been running just TRT test and low dose deca/var in effort to heal up and just take a break. Actually just started MK last night as well.

    Obs my point is that you only have one body. Take care of it. Give it some rest, take some time off from the gym and do some of the things you don't normally get the chance to do. It will do you good. Evaluate things during this time and come back recharged and ready to make progress.

    ps: get some blood work done as well.
    I spent nearly a year just on TRT test after my last cycle, and then recently added in low dose deca for a month. All of which worked wonders for restoring my overall sense of well-being and let me navigate this past year’s work stresses flawlessly.
    Granted, I still never take time off of training, but I also only run 3-4x/week compound lift focused programming.
    And as an update to your asking about my adding the Nandrolone before, it did done wonders for some of the obnoxious soft tissue problems I’ve had for years (plantar fasciitis, right hip flexors being prone to tweaks, etc.), even at just 100mg/week. Of course, I’m already seeing even more benefit on my current 300/week cycle dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    I spent nearly a year just on TRT test after my last cycle, and then recently added in low dose deca for a month. All of which worked wonders for restoring my overall sense of well-being and let me navigate this past year’s work stresses flawlessly.
    Granted, I still never take time off of training, but I also only run 3-4x/week compound lift focused programming.
    And as an update to your asking about my adding the Nandrolone before, it did done wonders for some of the obnoxious soft tissue problems I’ve had for years (plantar fasciitis, right hip flexors being prone to tweaks, etc.), even at just 100mg/week. Of course, I’m already seeing even more benefit on my current 300/week cycle dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    I spent nearly a year just on TRT test after my last cycle, and then recently added in low dose deca for a month. All of which worked wonders for restoring my overall sense of well-being and let me navigate this past year’s work stresses flawlessly.
    Granted, I still never take time off of training, but I also only run 3-4x/week compound lift focused programming.
    And as an update to your asking about my adding the Nandrolone before, it did done wonders for some of the obnoxious soft tissue problems I’ve had for years (plantar fasciitis, right hip flexors being prone to tweaks, etc.), even at just 100mg/week. Of course, I’m already seeing even more benefit on my current 300/week cycle dose.
    Since I dropped Deca I’ve noticed a lot more joint discomfort. It blows

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    The gypsy king will be an asset to the board before long. Be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    Since I dropped Deca I’ve noticed a lot more joint discomfort. It blows
    Me too. Stopped it a week or two ago and I’m already feeling more pain in my right shoulder and all those annoying clicks and pops in the rest of my body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Me too. Stopped it a week or two ago and I’m already feeling more pain in my right shoulder and all those annoying clicks and pops in the rest of my body.

    I stopped low dose deca once. Once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I stopped low dose deca once. Once.
    I would never stop it but I don’t want to go bald so I’ve been taking finasteride, and supposedly they don’t mix. It causes the hair to fall out double the rate if I wasn’t taking any finasteride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I would never stop it but I don’t want to go bald so I’ve been taking finasteride, and supposedly they don’t mix. It causes the hair to fall out double the rate if I wasn’t taking any finasteride.
    Deca shouldn’t cause any issues with hair loss. It doesn’t convert to DHT and it’s not androgenic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Now you're thinking. Your body needs a break. Your CNS needs a break. Every time I come off a cycle, and I've never really done the massive cycles I read about here, my body feels like it can just breath again. It seems to relax, reset and refresh itself. For months now I've been running just TRT test and low dose deca/var in effort to heal up and just take a break. Actually just started MK last night as well.

    Obs my point is that you only have one body. Take care of it. Give it some rest, take some time off from the gym and do some of the things you don't normally get the chance to do. It will do you good. Evaluate things during this time and come back recharged and ready to make progress.

    ps: get some blood work done as well.
    Where were you 12 hours ago?

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    Taking 250mg a week for first cycle?

    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Now you're thinking. Your body needs a break. Your CNS needs a break. Every time I come off a cycle, and I've never really done the massive cycles I read about here, my body feels like it can just breath again. It seems to relax, reset and refresh itself. For months now I've been running just TRT test and low dose deca/var in effort to heal up and just take a break. Actually just started MK last night as well.

    Obs my point is that you only have one body. Take care of it. Give it some rest, take some time off from the gym and do some of the things you don't normally get the chance to do. It will do you good. Evaluate things during this time and come back recharged and ready to make progress.

    ps: get some blood work done as well.
    Excellent advice!!
    A world in which I can’t lift at all anymore is a bleak world indeed..
    My good buddy OB has that old school do whatever it takes and don’t think about the consequences..only pussies worry about injury’s or pain..I respect that fearlessness but also realize how fragile our bodies really are, especially as we age..
    Just think about not being able to train that’s what I do..scares me like the worst nightmare imaginable..Iam glad your finally deciding to cut back on stims ,gear and take better care of you man!youve already done the hard work you have the muscle now it’s just maintaining..
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