I take 20mg generally .. it gives me mental effects and just feel good taking it. not everyone has that effect though. it was actually prescribed (before it became contraband) as an anti depressant decades ago . and of course was used by Olympic athletes.
personally , I generally WANT the water retention. I want the elevated estrogen levels as well.. thats how you grow. the idea of being 'dry' and super lean and shredded looking year round is how you stay small
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