Guns and Ammo Thread

[Proximal]

Alright, drinking, but still clear. Considering I have a 12shot magazine of bean bag bullets in a semiautomatic shot gun at close range, this won’t drop somebody?

[GearHeaded]

Alright, drinking, but still clear. Considering I have a 12shot magazine of bean bag bullets in a semiautomatic shot gun at close range, this won’t drop somebody?

there are certain times for mercy . which is most the time .. but there are also times you need the slugs loaded up and ready to go to crush the head of the enemy

[Ernst]

Alright, drinking, but still clear. Considering I have a 12shot magazine of bean bag bullets in a semiautomatic shot gun at close range, this won’t drop somebody?

You live in California. A 12-shot magazine is a felony punishable by one year in prison IIRC (unless you owned it before the ban or purchased it during "freedom week" which we know is not the case).

No sane person is going to stand around and take beanbags or rubber buckshot out of a 12 gauge. If I hear a shotgun being racked I'm fcuking outta there anyway, not gonna stick around and see what it's loaded with.

Since you're so fixated on this idea of beanbags I'll share: I have an old friend we'll call Mike, because that's his real name, who was shot by a beanbag shotgun round, courtesy of a corrections officer. Solid torso hit in the upper back. He said it hurt like hell and he was knocked down and it left a huge bruise but it was not enough to take him out of the fight. Physics says it does not have the energy to knock down so we know that was all psychological anyway.

But you should look to history for cues. You think the guy who breaks into your house or threatens your family is going to be sane and sober? Is he going to be alone? How about a couple of Moro Warriors drugged out of their minds instead?

You hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Ideally none of my guns will ever fire a shot outside of the range.

If you're so determined not to use anything that penetrates so much as to break the skin just get a can of bear spray or something. Keep it next to a hiking pack so you have a leg to stand on in court when they try to sue you later on for damages.

[SampsonandDelilah]

You live in California. A 12-shot magazine is a felony punishable by one year in prison IIRC (unless you owned it before the ban or purchased it during "freedom week" which we know is not the case).

No sane person is going to stand around and take beanbags or rubber buckshot out of a 12 gauge. If I hear a shotgun being racked I'm fcuking outta there anyway, not gonna stick around and see what it's loaded with.

Since you're so fixated on this idea of beanbags I'll share: I have an old friend we'll call Mike, because that's his real name, who was shot by a beanbag shotgun round, courtesy of a corrections officer. Solid torso hit in the upper back. He said it hurt like hell and he was knocked down and it left a huge bruise but it was not enough to take him out of the fight. Physics says it does not have the energy to knock down so we know that was all psychological anyway.

But you should look to history for cues. You think the guy who breaks into your house or threatens your family is going to be sane and sober? Is he going to be alone? How about a couple of Moro Warriors drugged out of their minds instead?

You hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Ideally none of my guns will ever fire a shot outside of the range.

If you're so determined not to use anything that penetrates so much as to break the skin just get a can of bear spray or something. Keep it next to a hiking pack so you have a leg to stand on in court when they try to sue you later on for damages.

Really well written and I agree. If non lethal is the choice, a bear spray can the size of a fire extinguisher is an awesome choice. Just don’t spray yourself or your backup

[GearHeaded]

Really well written and I agree. If non lethal is the choice, a bear spray can the size of a fire extinguisher is an awesome choice. Just don’t spray yourself or your backup

nothing wrong with an old fashioned punch in the face .. don't need the bear spray if you want "non lethal" just bring back the old fashioned punch in the face

[GearHeaded]

I'd rather "kill an intruder" by simply directing his mind not to commit his crime in the first place .. to love and cherish his neighbor and change his ways ...
yeah yeah , I got 50 guns and 10000 rounds of ammo .. but who cares. I want my neighbor to be saved not by force and impediment. death.. just a slight punch in the face and a wake up call

[GearHeaded]

I'd rather "kill an intruder" by simply directing his mind not to commit his crime in the first place .. to love and cherish his neighbor and change his ways ...
yeah yeah , I got 50 guns and 10000 rounds of ammo .. but who cares. I want my neighbor to be saved not by force and impediment. death.. just a slight punch in the face and a wake up call

but I still got the slugs, hollow points, and everything else all loaded up.. I'm not going to not protect my family. this is our 2nd amendment rights ... which we never need to use.. heck "we the people" waste our ammo at the gun range for fun. we never hurt a soul. but its our right to protect our family and neighbors if need be .

much rather use our minds then our guns

[Proximal]

You live in California. A 12-shot magazine is a felony punishable by one year in prison IIRC (unless you owned it before the ban or purchased it during "freedom week" which we know is not the case).

No sane person is going to stand around and take beanbags or rubber buckshot out of a 12 gauge. If I hear a shotgun being racked I'm fcuking outta there anyway, not gonna stick around and see what it's loaded with.

Since you're so fixated on this idea of beanbags I'll share: I have an old friend we'll call Mike, because that's his real name, who was shot by a beanbag shotgun round, courtesy of a corrections officer. Solid torso hit in the upper back. He said it hurt like hell and he was knocked down and it left a huge bruise but it was not enough to take him out of the fight. Physics says it does not have the energy to knock down so we know that was all psychological anyway.

But you should look to history for cues. You think the guy who breaks into your house or threatens your family is going to be sane and sober? Is he going to be alone? How about a couple of Moro Warriors drugged out of their minds instead?

You hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Ideally none of my guns will ever fire a shot outside of the range.

If you're so determined not to use anything that penetrates so much as to break the skin just get a can of bear spray or something. Keep it next to a hiking pack so you have a leg to stand on in court when they try to sue you later on for damages.

You all flatter me with your sincerity which is what I ask for and need.

Upper back? He’s retreating, you shoot lower back. Upper back, you hit scapula, thick bone, minimizes impact, go lower or hit glutes/hams to drop them.

Fine, I’ll do time and live. But, don’t kill neighbors.

Look, I’m saying 12 shots, close range. I will handle the rest/ do I drop to a smaller magazine, fine. Is the Semi-auto quicker than the pump action?

Playing the odds here, the breakins here are not frequent and don’t happen while occupied.

You all have given me your most honest opinions, think I know where I’m going with this.