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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Ernst, I sincerely appreciate your time. If there were gun stores available to handle these questions, I’d do that ( the stores available here, have asked that you come in only to purchase a specific gun). But still, my gut feeling is that the volume of knowledge here, plus everyone’s frank & direct opinions, holds more value to me.

    Regarding where your friend was shot, my point is, is that I know my anatomy. A bean-bag on a scapula is not ideal for pain (nor would I stab someone there with a knife, it’s too hard and not enough soft tissue). Hell, not even a bat; that scapula is a tough mf’r. Maybe a hammer, but I digress . . . .

    If I were trying to be lethal or incapacitating, I will be very deliberate in my choices of targets. If I do purchase a gun, I know my practice habits, they can be fanatical. Beetle posted a video up several posts of an ER doctor lecturing on gun shot locations, depth of penetration, types of bullets, trajectories, all leading to different rates of bleeding and the possibility of death (if all the above are spot on). It all made crystal clear sense to me and I was in complete understanding, except when discussing different bullets.

    Regarding my choice on this. My wife is a strong anti-gun individual, but when we first finished construction and moved in, I hadn’t hired security yet. Our house was broken into while we were at work and she was the one that walked into the house and realized this. Her opinion regarding a home gun is more understanding now.

    In my very rudimentary research into ammunition, my initial searches came up with nothing that would not penetrate several walls. That puts my friends and neighbors at risk. Our personal belief is that we have no problem protecting ourselves, but draw the line at deliberately choosing to put friends or others in harms way. Beetle posted something that seemed to indicate that buck shot was not a logical choice and apparently 00 buck shot still penetrates and passes through several walls.

    Would I likely have other ammunition, sure. Would I likely have more guns, yep. My naive (and I understand it’s naive) train of thought would be is if I can briefly incapacitate the intruder with multiple bean bags, I can then be in a better position to be lethal in a no miss situation. Or I have no qualms about other manners (as I said, I know my anatomy very well).

    I just want to thank you all again. I know a shit load more now than I had before. I have another resource I will ask, but right now he’s a little more concerned with current events, so the timing is poor. My goal is when I do step into a gun store, I can come in with intelligent questions & make intelligent decisions.

    Your advice is appreciated a LOT.
    Where did u get the bean bag ammo? Id like to grab some as well, if in a panic id rather have bean bags to drop someone then miss with buck shot and kill a good neighbor.... Commiefornia blows goats

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2048b View Post
    Where did u get the bean bag ammo? Id like to grab some as well, if in a panic id rather have bean bags to drop someone then miss with buck shot and kill a good neighbor.... Commiefornia blows goats

    Salt rock hurts like a mofo too [emoji23] just sayin

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    It's available online and in some gun shops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2048b View Post
    Where did u get the bean bag ammo? Id like to grab some as well, if in a panic id rather have bean bags to drop someone then miss with buck shot and kill a good neighbor.... Commiefornia blows goats

    Salt rock hurts like a mofo too [emoji23] just sayin

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    Buckshot kill them neighbor? You guys live in apartment building made of quarter inch dry wall or something?

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