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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Slow and steady - smart!

    Do you ever do stutter reps or train with a partner ?
    I am slowly going to start training with more volume now. My strength has come back and I believe I can push further but in an attempt to avoid injury I will add more volume. Plus, I haven't done volume on heavy sets in quite some time.

    Never heard of stutter reps before until I just googled them. Have you had any luck with them? My training methods are for the most part adopted from mountain and DC style training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    I am slowly going to start training with more volume now. My strength has come back and I believe I can push further but in an attempt to avoid injury I will add more volume. Plus, I haven't done volume on heavy sets in quite some time.

    Never heard of stutter reps before until I just googled them. Have you had any luck with them? My training methods are for the most part adopted from mountain and DC style training.
    I've been doing it along with along of shocking principle techniques with my coach during quarantine and it's been incredible. Definitely something I wouldn't do part of a regular routine though. Maybe once every 2-3 months.

    Got a bit of an experiment running - curious how much water weight and fluff I am holding. Pulled MK first, then creatine for maybe first or second time since training. Next I pulled all artificial sweeteners based off an interview I saw with Brandon Curry. I had maybe 10-11 lbs of water weight.

    Next will do no carbs for 48 hours before next weigh in / measurements.

    Also went down a documentary rabbit hole between Amazon Prime Video and Netflix. Considering redoing my whole vitamin and supplement routine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I've been doing it along with along of shocking principle techniques with my coach during quarantine and it's been incredible. Definitely something I wouldn't do part of a regular routine though. Maybe once every 2-3 months.

    Got a bit of an experiment running - curious how much water weight and fluff I am holding. Pulled MK first, then creatine for maybe first or second time since training. Next I pulled all artificial sweeteners based off an interview I saw with Brandon Curry. I had maybe 10-11 lbs of water weight.

    Next will do no carbs for 48 hours before next weigh in / measurements.

    Also went down a documentary rabbit hole between Amazon Prime Video and Netflix. Considering redoing my whole vitamin and supplement routine
    Mind sharing what you learnt about vitamins and supplements? Hopefully its not too much to type or if you could let me know of the documentary that would be awesome.

    MK makes me hold a lot of water. I get crazy strength as well but I think its mainly from the extra water weight... I cut artificial sweeteners once I realized the impact they were having on my digestion and haven't looked back since. Im referring to constantly adding something to my water, I don't shy away from a diet soda here and there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Mind sharing what you learnt about vitamins and supplements? Hopefully its not too much to type or if you could let me know of the documentary that would be awesome.

    MK makes me hold a lot of water. I get crazy strength as well but I think its mainly from the extra water weight... I cut artificial sweeteners once I realized the impact they were having on my digestion and haven't looked back since. Im referring to constantly adding something to my water, I don't shy away from a diet soda here and there
    I went through Netflix and Amazon Video and watched every documentary related to food. Probably not the smartest combination with THC.

    A good example used was fish oil. We take it to raise omega 3s. What really matters is the ratio of 3
    to 6. So rather than supplementing with fish oil instead we can bring down the omega 6's and the ratio corrects itself. Better quality foods and choices of foods accomplishes that.


    So if you are at 1 : 16, it's more healthy to bring it down to 1 : 4 instead of going to 4:16.

    My though process on removing supplements was that my HRT is currently 750mg of gear across anabolics + GH +GW. I suspect the creatine, glutamine, bcaa, and gatorade might be helping me 1-2% at best for recovery / performance. I don't think $500-600/year for 1% is worth it at my level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I went through Netflix and Amazon Video and watched every documentary related to food. Probably not the smartest combination with THC.

    A good example used was fish oil. We take it to raise omega 3s. What really matters is the ratio of 3
    to 6. So rather than supplementing with fish oil instead we can bring down the omega 6's and the ratio corrects itself. Better quality foods and choices of foods accomplishes that.


    So if you are at 1 : 16, it's more healthy to bring it down to 1 : 4 instead of going to 4:16.

    My though process on removing supplements was that my HRT is currently 750mg of gear across anabolics + GH +GW. I suspect the creatine, glutamine, bcaa, and gatorade might be helping me 1-2% at best for recovery / performance. I don't think $500-600/year for 1% is worth it at my level.
    I agree with that line of thinking. I already look at items lower in omega 6 and higher in omega 3. Grass fed beef, pasture raised eggs etc. I still add omega 3 on top after that to help with the ratio. I was always against omega 3-6-9 supplements for this reason.

    I also agree with the part of throwing out gatorade etc. I don't know how I feel about creatine, I guess if you supplement with salt then you have no issue anyways as Stan Efferdin has his guys use salt in place of creatine and has no issues but for myself those supplements are worth while simply due to insulin use. If no insulin, I would likely not be able to justify the cost. Its also more eye opening in a sense when you look at the yearly cost as opposed to monthly/weekly. Its easy to shrug off $2 per day until you realize thats $700 per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    I agree with that line of thinking. I already look at items lower in omega 6 and higher in omega 3. Grass fed beef, pasture raised eggs etc. I still add omega 3 on top after that to help with the ratio. I was always against omega 3-6-9 supplements for this reason.

    I also agree with the part of throwing out gatorade etc. I don't know how I feel about creatine, I guess if you supplement with salt then you have no issue anyways as Stan Efferdin has his guys use salt in place of creatine and has no issues but for myself those supplements are worth while simply due to insulin use. If no insulin, I would likely not be able to justify the cost. Its also more eye opening in a sense when you look at the yearly cost as opposed to monthly/weekly. Its easy to shrug off $2 per day until you realize thats $700 per year.
    Yep I went the same way with food. Been just over 1 week no supplements and haven't seen a performance change. Going to keep monitoring though and set a reminder in 3 and 6 months to review.

    My supplement stack is very simple now

    - Methylated B Complex
    - Activated Multivitamin
    - Vitamin D3
    - Bone and Mineral Complex (1/4th serving)
    - Glucosamine (Has Chondroitin Sulfate and MSM, 1/4th serving)

    Only D3 + 4 pills.

    At my worst I remember buying 3x 7-day pill containers because I had to split all the pills into 3 portions for each day.

    I tweaked my diet - I pulled carbs from pasta, oats, rice etc to add more fruit and veggies. At 8-10 servings of fruit plus another 8-10 servings of veggies each day (both assorted) I got micro nutrition covered I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Yep I went the same way with food. Been just over 1 week no supplements and haven't seen a performance change. Going to keep monitoring though and set a reminder in 3 and 6 months to review.

    My supplement stack is very simple now

    - Methylated B Complex
    - Activated Multivitamin
    - Vitamin D3
    - Bone and Mineral Complex (1/4th serving)
    - Glucosamine (Has Chondroitin Sulfate and MSM, 1/4th serving)

    Only D3 + 4 pills.

    At my worst I remember buying 3x 7-day pill containers because I had to split all the pills into 3 portions for each day.

    I tweaked my diet - I pulled carbs from pasta, oats, rice etc to add more fruit and veggies. At 8-10 servings of fruit plus another 8-10 servings of veggies each day (both assorted) I got micro nutrition covered I think.
    I feel you on the excessive pill part. On contest prep I take so many its nuts. Off season its just D3 + multi vitamin for vitamins. I do also take citrus bergamot for help with lipids and omega 3 for the same reason. Just threw in astragalus not too long ago to help with blood pressure but the EQ keeps raising my BP no matter what I do... May need to drop it pretty soon here.

    I'm huge on fruits. I can easily make room for them with my high carb diet anyways. As for veggies, I'll be honest and say that I slack quite a bit. It's easier on prep but off season it's so difficult when you get full off broccoli and still have meat and rice to consume lol

    Which brand multi vitamin are you taking? I need a good one, just using one I found at an organic grocer store locally.

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    Finally decided on my blast. 18 weeks

    Test 40mg/day
    DHB - 60mg/day
    Mast 80mg/day
    Primo 150mg/day
    Cardarine 40mg/day

    After that going to pull back on HRT further and consider dropping my GH if recovery is 110% and I'm able to get proper testing done post pandemic. If I can remove GH I should be able to retire May 2021 which is very exciting.

    Considering the following for HRT:

    150mg Test
    90mg Deca
    180 or 225mg Primo
    150mg EQ
    900IU HCG
    10mg Anavar/day

    Still will not be using MK677, considering removing Cardarine or going down to 5-10mg/day. Cutting Var in half as well and again maybe no more GH.
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    Been having issues with digestion lately so I've had to reduce my calories quite a bit in an attempt to get the hunger going again. I feel hungrier today than I did yesterday and the day before but today I will aim for 4200 calories hoping that tomorrow I am ready to take down 5k minimum. The goal is to hold 220lb and I will likely be hovering right around there tomorrow.

    Attaching an updated back shot. Lats are getting wider which is my primary focus in regards to my back. I need to start focus on trap height as well..

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