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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    you assume too much.. my reference to "fat face" was NOT directed at YOU personally at all (are you self conscience and think you have a fat face or something ? ... heck I have no clue what you look like).. the reference was to the point itself, the point about the having lots of spoons (gluttony) and fatning your face and obesity is perfectly acceptable in society of Dems but somehow owning more then one gun is looked down upon. when the former isn't even spelled out as an amendment to the constitution but the latter is.
    a liberal can have 100 spoons and be 50 pounds overweight and a drunk glutton and thats perfectly ok, but a conservative owning more then one gun thats a bad thing somehow (and again, the former is not spelled out as a constitutional right and the latter is).

    anyhow, whatever , just wanted you to know my point was not directed at you as a personal attack at all , just a point. "fat face" was a reference to the point in general not to you personally
    That’s a false equivalency and a dishonest take on what dems think of obesity. For one, guns can kill other people. A person getting fat and unhealthy isn’t hurting you or anyone. Also, most dems don’t advocate of getting rid of guns, but to making it incredibly difficult to obtain them, which, you shouldn’t have a problem with if you’re an upstanding citizens.

    Think about it this way, you think it’s gross and weird to be accepting of people getting fat and overweight, but myself (a veteran mind you) thinks it’s gross to fetishize guns that most conservatives do. Now don’t you think it would benefit both people to put some sort of restrictions on the sort of food that people are buying/ provide them with cheap alternatives (people in low income areas become overweight due to the low cost of unhealthy food) and that maybe we shouldn’t be giving weapons to people just because they say they want them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staynattybruh View Post
    That’s a false equivalency and a dishonest take on what dems think of obesity. For one, guns can kill other people.
    guarantee you , I can be pretty darn deadly with a spoon. highly doubt you'd want to be locked in a room with me and my spoon

    on a side note. heart disease, diabetes, obesity, and all those things related to over consumption of "the spoon" kills more people every year then any conservative gun ownership ever has.
    owning 50+ guns and taking your kids shooting for a good family quality time etc. does not kill anyone .. but the spoon and your gluttony kills millions every year.
    yet the conservative is looked down upon cause he collects guns. when in reality he does not harm a soul ,, not even close to the damage a spoon can do.

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    can a gun be misused in evil hands ,,, sure.

    when you misspell a word when writing with the pen, do you blame the pen itself ? restrict pen sales? do you look down on it cause owning more then one pen is somehow a bad thing in and of itself?
    no.. have all the pens you want . thats fine. some misspelled words are bound to happen in some cases, but don't need to restrict the pen itself just cause some people are going to misspell some words along the way

    my observation..
    the problem with most liberals is that they fear everything.. rather then just letting life take its course. sure some bad shit happens along the way. so what.. shit happens. I'd rather simply have the 'freedom' to walk across the street even if one day I got hit by a car so what, rather then have the restriction and getting arrested for 'jay walking'


    pens do not misspell words and guns don't kill people..
    but you better be careful of that scary spoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    can a gun be misused in evil hands ,,, sure.

    when you misspell a word when writing with the pen, do you blame the pen itself ? restrict pen sales? do you look down on it cause owning more then one pen is somehow a bad thing in and of itself?
    no.. have all the pens you want . thats fine. some misspelled words are bound to happen in some cases, but don't need to restrict the pen itself just cause some people are going to misspell some words along the way

    my observation..
    the problem with most liberals is that they fear everything.. rather then just letting life take its course. sure some bad shit happens along the way. so what.. shit happens. I'd rather simply have the 'freedom' to walk across the street even if one day I got hit by a car so what, rather then have the restriction and getting arrested for 'jay walking'


    pens do not misspell words and guns don't kill people..
    but you better be careful of that scary spoon
    We dont ban pens just because folks sometimes use them to kill others.

    Student Stabbed To Death With Pens And Pencils

    Student Stabbed To Death With Pens And Pencils

    A murderer is brought to justice after being found guilty of stabbing a student to death with writing pens. The twenty one year old admitted violently stabbing the girl in the throat and head 90 times


    https://www.foxnews.com/us/stripper-...pen-police-say

    Stripper fatally stabbed partner in eyes with pen, police say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staynattybruh View Post
    That’s a false equivalency and a dishonest take on what dems think of obesity. For one, guns can kill other people. A person getting fat and unhealthy isn’t hurting you or anyone. Also, most dems don’t advocate of getting rid of guns, but to making it incredibly difficult to obtain them, which, you shouldn’t have a problem with if you’re an upstanding citizens.
    Would you be OK with making it incredibly difficult to obtain books, in violation of the first amendment, because you’re an upstanding citizen? Guns are no different. One is protected by the first amendment, the other is covered by the second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staynattybruh View Post
    That’s a false equivalency and a dishonest take on what dems think of obesity. For one, guns can kill other people. A person getting fat and unhealthy isn’t hurting you or anyone. Also, most dems don’t advocate of getting rid of guns, but to making it incredibly difficult to obtain them, which, you shouldn’t have a problem with if you’re an upstanding citizens.

    Think about it this way, you think it’s gross and weird to be accepting of people getting fat and overweight, but myself (a veteran mind you) thinks it’s gross to fetishize guns that most conservatives do. Now don’t you think it would benefit both people to put some sort of restrictions on the sort of food that people are buying/ provide them with cheap alternatives (people in low income areas become overweight due to the low cost of unhealthy food) and that maybe we shouldn’t be giving weapons to people just because they say they want them.
    Guns have killed as many folks as books. Falling tree branches and lightning have spontaneously killed more folks than guns. I have plenty of guns and books in my house, as do most folks I know. I never heard of a gun just going off by itself and killing anyone. Books either. Tree branches have fallen and killed folks. Mud slides have spontaneously killed people. These things do kill folks by themselves. not guns.

    People might use any tool to kill someone. Hammers havent spontaneously killed anyone that I can recall. But folks have used them to kill others. Lets make it incredibly difficult to buy a hammer.

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