I tried to buy a Firearm and the sale was placed “on hold”

[Capebuffalo]

Everybody needs a gun. Even these people who are just now realizing it. The culture in this country is changing and not for the good. People know the police cannot and will not protect them. And beyond that, the government's goons might just be the very people you need to protect yourself from.

It’s funny. I’ve had friends text me over the last couple of months Cape I need a gun. What do you recommend. What ammo do I need. Can you teach me to shoot. These are people ho used to look at me like I was crazy for carrying everyday. I tell them better late to the party than missing the party.

[GearHeaded]

It’s funny. I’ve had friends text me over the last couple of months Cape I need a gun. What do you recommend. What ammo do I need. Can you teach me to shoot. These are people ho used to look at me like I was crazy for carrying everyday. I tell them better late to the party than missing the party.

so its not just me. this is good to hear. heck I thought I was being set up with the amount of people texting me asking about guns. even a close family member who is a left winger anti gun to a degree asked if I had an extra AR or AK he could buy from me.
I'm like man with all the different people reaching out to me about it, this has got to be some sort of set up . good to know its not just me

[Honkey_Kong]

It’s funny. I’ve had friends text me over the last couple of months Cape I need a gun. What do you recommend. What ammo do I need. Can you teach me to shoot. These are people ho used to look at me like I was crazy for carrying everyday. I tell them better late to the party than missing the party.

I've kind of changed my opinion on guns chambered in 9mm and 5.56/223. During this whole thing those rounds flew off the shelves while .40S&W, .308, 30-06, 30-30, 10mm and .45ACP remained well-stocked. If I were asked for my recommendation for a gun I'd recommend one in those calibers.

But still though, the best for home-defense is a shotgun. You can get a Maverick-88 for pretty cheap and it's basically a Mossberg 500. Plus in your in a situation where you need to defend your home and family, you're probably going to be pretty nervous. You're not going to be as good of a shot as you are at the range hitting paper or metal targets. With a shotgun loaded with birdshot, if you get it aimed in the right direction, you're probably going to hit the target with at least one or two pellets. Plus the risk of over-penetration is greatly reduced (which is a factor a lot of people don't think about when selecting a weapon). You want to hit the intended target. You don't want to accidentally kill an innocent person on the other side of the wall.

[GearHeaded]

I've kind of changed my opinion on guns chambered in 9mm and 5.56/223. During this whole thing those rounds flew off the shelves while .40S&W, .308, 30-06, 30-30, 10mm and .45ACP remained well-stocked. If I were asked for my recommendation for a gun I'd recommend one in those calibers.

But still though, the best for home-defense is a shotgun. You can get a Maverick-88 for pretty cheap and it's basically a Mossberg 500. Plus in your in a situation where you need to defend your home and family, you're probably going to be pretty nervous. You're not going to be as good of a shot as you are at the range hitting paper or metal targets. With a shotgun loaded with birdshot, if you get it aimed in the right direction, you're probably going to hit the target with at least one or two pellets. Plus the risk of over-penetration is greatly reduced (which is a factor a lot of people don't think about when selecting a weapon). You want to hit the intended target. You don't want to accidentally kill an innocent person on the other side of the wall.

your likely not going to kill or stop the criminal breaking into your home either .. shotgun with bird shot is ridiculous for home defense.
be proficient with the real tools and its not an issue. learn how to place a Glock 19 9mm round 15 times rapid fire into your target to stop the threat.



bird shot in a shotgun just going to get yourself killed . um its for killing birds, not whacked out 230 pound meth out criminals breaking into your home.

that being said. a shotgun is a great weapon, have one next to my bed.. but it don't got no "bird shot" in it. bear slugs and 00 tactical buck shot.. the ax is preferred choice though for some thug breaking into my house



on a side note your point about calibers . um you should just own all of those calibers. I do and I reload them.. its not a matter of either or its both

[GearHeaded]

your likely not going to kill or stop the criminal breaking into your home either .. shotgun with bird shot is ridiculous for home defense.
be proficient with the real tools and its not an issue. learn how to place a Glock 19 9mm round 15 times rapid fire into your target to stop the threat.



bird shot in a shotgun just going to get yourself killed . um its for killing birds, not whacked out 230 pound meth out criminals breaking into your home.

that being said. a shotgun is a great weapon, have one next to my bed.. but it don't got no "bird shot" in it. bear slugs and 00 tactical buck shot.. the ax is preferred choice though for some thug breaking into my house



on a side note your point about calibers . um you should just own all of those calibers. I do and I reload them.. its not a matter of either or its both

to add to this point , I've done my fair share of pheasant hunting . using a shot gun with bird shot and when the dogs got them out of the grass and in the air and I blasted them with "bird shot" , I still had to pick them up and twist and break their necks cause they were not dead from the shotgun blast. thats a 2 pound bird.. you really want to use bird shot to protect your home and family from a 230 pound meth head breaking into your home

[Cuz]

to add to this point , I've done my fair share of pheasant hunting . using a shot gun with bird shot and when the dogs got them out of the grass and in the air and I blasted them with "bird shot" , I still had to pick them up and twist and break their necks cause they were not dead from the shotgun blast. thats a 2 pound bird.. you really want to use bird shot to protect your home and family from a 230 pound meth head breaking into your home

Lol GH ive never seen a 230 pound methhead . Roidhead maybe

[GearHeaded]

Lol GH ive never seen a 230 pound methhead . Roidhead maybe

good point

but I arm myself cause there possibly could be a 230 pound meth head out there wanting to break into my house ... why not be strapped and jacked for anything possible . if I only worried about 120 pound meth heads and grizzly bears I'd simply use my bare heads . but heck what better excuse to arm myself.
I have bears, mountain lions, moose, etc. in my back yard .. I tell most people I carry my Glock 10mm not cause I'm afraid of the bears or lions , but because I don't like spiders

welcome to the jungle baby, anything can happen

[Capebuffalo]

good point

but I arm myself cause there possibly could be a 230 pound meth head out there wanting to break into my house ... why not be strapped and jacked for anything possible . if I only worried about 120 pound meth heads and grizzly bears I'd simply use my bare heads . but heck what better excuse to arm myself.
I have bears, mountain lions, moose, etc. in my back yard .. I tell most people I carry my Glock 10mm not cause I'm afraid of the bears or lions , but because I don't like spiders

welcome to the jungle baby, anything can happen

Somebody breaks into my house:
Alexa says welcome to the rice paddy mother fucker
Then plays welcome to the jungle
That’s when the roomba comes out with a claymore strapped to the top.

[Honkey_Kong]

your likely not going to kill or stop the criminal breaking into your home either .. shotgun with bird shot is ridiculous for home defense.
be proficient with the real tools and its not an issue. learn how to place a Glock 19 9mm round 15 times rapid fire into your target to stop the threat.



bird shot in a shotgun just going to get yourself killed . um its for killing birds, not whacked out 230 pound meth out criminals breaking into your home.

that being said. a shotgun is a great weapon, have one next to my bed.. but it don't got no "bird shot" in it. bear slugs and 00 tactical buck shot.. the ax is preferred choice though for some thug breaking into my house



on a side note your point about calibers . um you should just own all of those calibers. I do and I reload them.. its not a matter of either or its both

Take a look at Paul Harrels' videos on the matter, he makes a pretty good case for shotguns being great defensive weapons at home.

Here's a good video:
https://youtu.be/HF5N5tfMuX4?t=658

Looks like a kill shot.

[GearHeaded]

Take a look at Paul Harrels' videos on the matter, he makes a pretty good case for shotguns being great defensive weapons at home.

Here's a good video:
https://youtu.be/HF5N5tfMuX4?t=658

Looks like a kill shot.

depends on the shotgun and the choke you are using .. in most cases a smooth barrel or open choke with bird shot is not all that effective. buckshot with slugs is much better..

with a properly set up shotgun and choke tuned to the right bird shot then yeah you can get some good results with that (thats how my Turkey hunting gun is set up to make clean head shots) . but most people don't bother... an average off the shelf shotgun from Walmart with a box of no. 8 birdshot is not going to serve you near as well as you think.

[Honkey_Kong]

depends on the shotgun and the choke you are using .. in most cases a smooth barrel or open choke with bird shot is not all that effective. buckshot with slugs is much better..

with a properly set up shotgun and choke tuned to the right bird shot then yeah you can get some good results with that (thats how my Turkey hunting gun is set up to make clean head shots) . but most people don't bother... an average off the shelf shotgun from Walmart with a box of no. 8 birdshot is not going to serve you near as well as you think.

If the first shot doesn't work, pump repeat. Point is it's a great home defense weapon. And Walley World has some pretty good shotguns for sale there. I've bought a Mossberg 500 with the bead-sight from there before. Way cheaper than at Bass or even Sportsman's Warehouse (I'm sure Bud's Gun Shop is better, but then you have to deal with finding an FFL to transfer it to).