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I am curious guys. What’s your feelings on the Atlanta killing (dude fell asleep in the drive-thru)?

a white male in a rural town 30 years ago , falling asleep in his car from drinking ,, would likely be left alone to sleep it off or would of been kindly driven home by an officer or the officer would of tried to call a family member to pick him up .. NOT shot twice in the back and murdered .
sleeping drunk in your car is a minor offense . no officer has a right to be judge jury and executioner .

cops have gotten out of hand.
I realized this when I too had a very minor offense and had 5 cops throw me to the ground and draw guns to my head. over a "crime" I didn't even commit.. they themselves escalated the situation. had I been black perhaps I'd of likely been shot , idk.


the guy in Atlanta should of lived to see another day . his response to the cops was to run and get away ... umm well yeah thats black culture, thats what you do. you try to get away cause other wise the system is going to imprison you and torture you . so of course he tried to run away.. but running away is a minor offense and no way should that minor of an offense result in getting shot in the back from a racist KKK cop

I've said this before .. I used to be a runner and do 5ks etc.. but my knees and back are jacked up now. so I'm never running again .. unless its from the cops (hopefully I don't get shot in the back)

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a white male in a rural town 30 years ago , falling asleep in his car from drinking ,, would likely be left alone to sleep it off or would of been kindly driven home by an officer or the officer would of tried to call a family member to pick him up .. NOT shot twice in the back and murdered .
sleeping drunk in your car is a minor offense . no officer has a right to be judge jury and executioner .

cops have gotten out of hand.
I realized this when I too had a very minor offense and had 5 cops throw me to the ground and draw guns to my head. over a "crime" I didn't even commit.. they themselves escalated the situation. had I been black perhaps I'd of likely been shot , idk.


the guy in Atlanta should of lived to see another day . his response to the cops was to run and get away ... umm well yeah thats black culture, thats what you do. you try to get away cause other wise the system is going to imprison you and torture you . so of course he tried to run away.. but running away is a minor offense and no way should that minor of an offense result in getting shot in the back from a racist KKK cop

I've said this before .. I used to be a runner and do 5ks etc.. but my knees and back are jacked up now. so I'm never running again .. unless its from the cops (hopefully I don't get shot in the back)

Hell, in Chicago 40 years ago, the cops would help you home. But it’s now 2020.

Regarding the running from cops business, well I stated my case before and offended Charger and don’t want to do that again (JK Charger).

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Hell, in Chicago 40 years ago, the cops would help you home. But it’s now 2020.

Regarding the running from cops business, well I stated my case before and offended Charger and don’t want to do that again (JK Charger).

I got driven home in NY almost 40 years ago. 1981 i was driving a girl home after a night at the disco. She was fucking around with the wheel when i was driving, trying to turn into a donut spot. No sooner did i push her away and look in the mirror, did i see a cop right behind me. He pulled me over and saw i was a bit drunk. I lived close but i was driving her to Brooklyn. He gave us a ride to my crib a mile away, and thanks to him, i got laid because she was with me for the night now.


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I got driven home in NY almost 40 years ago. 1981 i was driving a girl home after a night at the disco. She was fucking around with the wheel when i was driving, trying to turn into a donut spot. No sooner did i push her away and look in the mirror, did i see a cop right behind me. He pulled me over and saw i was a bit drunk. I lived close but i was driving her to Brooklyn. He gave us a ride to my crib a mile away, and thanks to him, i got laid because she was with me for the night now.


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I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but those were different times. In the south side of Chicago, cops were bribed and our strip bar offered “services” downstairs. Bars should close by 4 am, but if that still was too early for you and needed to keep drinking; guess what, cops also let another bar stay open. Cruising with beers was the norm and my buddy would generally park his car on the front lawn near the front porch, because he was absolutely blitzed. But the cops knew him and gave him a pass.

I got off of a DUI 30 years ago, because I knew I was well over the limit, but was honest, polite & respectful. It also helped that I was less than a block from home.

Honestly, it does help being white in both of the places that I mentioned as well.

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I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but those were different times. In the south side of Chicago, cops were bribed and our strip bar offered “services” downstairs. Bars should close by 4 am, but if that still was too early for you and needed to keep drinking; guess what, cops also let another bar stay open. Cruising with beers was the norm and my buddy would generally park his car on the front lawn near the front porch, because he was absolutely blitzed. But the cops knew him and gave him a pass.

I got off of a DUI 30 years ago, because I knew I was well over the limit, but was honest, polite & respectful. It also helped that I was less than a block from home.

Honestly, it does help being white in both of the places that I mentioned as well.

I got a DUI at my own house... heck no offer to bring me home, I was home! I was washing my car in the driveway then I pulled it out to turn it around and back it up the other direction and I slipped the clutch on some sand (they sand the crap out of the roads here cause all the snow and ice we get) and the car went into the trees (500 hp race tires a clutch and sand on the road don't mix well)
I got pissed that my car was in the trees and so started taking shots of whisky big time. while looking up tow trucks to get my car out of the trees.
well where I live we have neighborhood security guards that drive around (such a perk of living in a wealthy area eh) . well they saw the car off the road and called the cops to come check it out.. cops show up 3 hours later and I'm pretty drunk and pissed off by that time. they arrest me and give me a DUI for drinking in my own home.

the DUI business has become a money making business . the cops criminalize everyone now and hand out DUIs like candy to keep feeding the system.
another guy I know got arrested for sitting in his driveway drinking a beer in his truck listening to music. he got a DUI sitting in his own driveway. wtf.
now they have lowered the limit so much that having a single beer at a restaurant and driving home will catch you a DUI .. they are criminalizing the F out of people to indite them and take their money . I'm out at least 12k thus far from that DUI. heck even in jail I got a bill in the mail for the meals.. I had to pay thousands to get an interlock installed on my car. I had to go through nearly 2 years worth of mandatory DUI counseling every week, all of which I had to pay for. I had to piss in a cup 50+ times all of which piss tests I had to pay for.. etc etc..
they hand out DUIs like candy and lower the limits to criminalize normal people and take their money. its a scam.

I'm against drunk driving. if you go to a bar to get drunk then take an uber home or have a plan. don't ever drive drunk .. but people getting DUIs in their one driveway and all these road blocks they set up to try and catch someone for having one beer at happy hour after work is total bullshit .. they are just trying to take freedoms away and make money for themselves in the false front name of "public safety" .

in my state, in order to get a driver license you have to sign a waiver saying you can be taken into custody and blood tested at any time.
if you have car keys in your pocket and your just walking around down town bar hopping, an officer can just arrest you and take you in for blood test and if you refuse to get tested you get a max penalty DUI, when you weren't even anywhere near your car.
its a total loss of freedoms..
its not a black or white issue . this big govt bullshit system wants to own and take away from everyone.

slavery by rich white left wing elitists was never abolished, it was simply transferred to include everyone now

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I got a DUI at my own house... heck no offer to bring me home, I was home! I was washing my car in the driveway then I pulled it out to turn it around and back it up the other direction and I slipped the clutch on some sand (they sand the crap out of the roads here cause all the snow and ice we get) and the car went into the trees (500 hp race tires a clutch and sand on the road don't mix well)
I got pissed that my car was in the trees and so started taking shots of whisky big time. while looking up tow trucks to get my car out of the trees.
well where I live we have neighborhood security guards that drive around (such a perk of living in a wealthy area eh) . well they saw the car off the road and called the cops to come check it out.. cops show up 3 hours later and I'm pretty drunk and pissed off by that time. they arrest me and give me a DUI for drinking in my own home.

the DUI business has become a money making business . the cops criminalize everyone now and hand out DUIs like candy to keep feeding the system.
another guy I know got arrested for sitting in his driveway drinking a beer in his truck listening to music. he got a DUI sitting in his own driveway. wtf.
now they have lowered the limit so much that having a single beer at a restaurant and driving home will catch you a DUI .. they are criminalizing the F out of people to indite them and take their money . I'm out at least 12k thus far from that DUI. heck even in jail I got a bill in the mail for the meals.. I had to pay thousands to get an interlock installed on my car. I had to go through nearly 2 years worth of mandatory DUI counseling every week, all of which I had to pay for. I had to piss in a cup 50+ times all of which piss tests I had to pay for.. etc etc..
they hand out DUIs like candy and lower the limits to criminalize normal people and take their money. its a scam.

I'm against drunk driving. if you go to a bar to get drunk then take an uber home or have a plan. don't ever drive drunk .. but people getting DUIs in their one driveway and all these road blocks they set up to try and catch someone for having one beer at happy hour after work is total bullshit .. they are just trying to take freedoms away and make money for themselves in the false front name of "public safety" .

in my state, in order to get a driver license you have to sign a waiver saying you can be taken into custody and blood tested at any time.
if you have car keys in your pocket and your just walking around down town bar hopping, an officer can just arrest you and take you in for blood test and if you refuse to get tested you get a max penalty DUI, when you weren't even anywhere near your car.
its a total loss of freedoms..
its not a black or white issue . this big govt bullshit system wants to own and take away from everyone.

slavery by rich white left wing elitists was never abolished, it was simply transferred to include everyone now

absolutely correct. You described the problem completely and gave egregious examples of police misconduct. You should have sued the cop for false arrest and denial of your civil rights. You are allowed to drink in your driveway. He didnt observe you driving drunk.

That blood test shit sucks. They dont have that ridiculous shit in my state. How can the government be allowed to do something as invasive as a blood test just to check compliance with a vehicle and traffic law? In my state, if you refuse, you will get your license suspended for a period of time. A judge would have to sign an order for a blood test, and that is only if there are serious injuries involved, never in the absence of an accident with injuries.

The DWI arrest has developed for two reasons, one is financial, the second is psychological.

Firstly, Over the last 25 -30 years, going back to when all this DWI hysteria started, thousands upon thousands of cops have become accustomed to the easy Overtime from a DWI arrest to pay their mortgage, and live above their means. Its too easy to just go out, pull someone over late at night, and make them blow. Two weeks later you have a few hundred bucks more in your paycheck.

The second reason is more nuanced. Many small police departments, apparently like where Gearhead writes about, have a police force that never gets to play cop. they never get to feel like the real cops they see on TV shows. they never to get to put the cuffs on someone and feel like they are catching bad guys. It bothers them. Never get an opportunity to feel like crime fighters, except for one type of incident, a DWI arrest. Thanks to DWI enforcement, they get an opportunity to feel like they are real cops, pulling folks out of the car, cuffing them, searching their car, fingerprinting them, and generally walking someone around in cuffs. In so many small towns and quieter areas, such as Mayberry, the cops never get to put their hands or handcuffs on anyone if it wasnt for a DWI arrest. They went for decades just being Barney Fife on a slow day. Their self esteem is lifted by pretending that they are fighting crime by catching outlaws, but in reality they are visiting misery on a harmless motorist.

Thanks to the national push for DWI arrests, assisted by federal money for checkpoints and DWI task forces, and multi-agency holiday operations, small towns and police departments have filled their coffers with funds related to DWI enforcement.

It is a new cottage industry. Proceeds from the sale of confiscated cars. court fees, fines, supervision fees, kickbacks from interlock companies to pass laws and and then get awarded the contracts to put their monitoring devices in defendants' cars. Kickbacks to lawyers for referring clients to unnecessary counselling. Counselling centers bilking insurance companies for unnecessary treatment. DWI classes. Driver responsibility fees assessed and collected for the government. Probation fees, insurance company surcharges. the list goes on and on. It has become an industry, and it criminalized two generations of americans.

It is a total scam, perpetuated and instigated by that fraudulent non profit of mad mothers. They started this whole bullshit.

You younger brothers have no idea how it used to be. Cops would make you walk home, throwing your keys in your trunk. or tell you to come by the precinct the next day to get the keys. they used to save arrests for real criminals. small town cops were happy serving the residents instead of alienating them by arresting them, all to pay their mortgage or feel like a big man.

I always drove in a big city since i learned to drive. DWI was a non issue. the cops had enough to do with real crime, they didnt bother with nonsense like that. Some of my friends growing up became cops. And we all got stopped growing up and were told to walk home. My man said, in the early 1980's when he was first a cop, if you brought a DWI or domestic violence arrest in, you were mocked by the boss and asked if you were afraid of the street by wanting to stay inside with a bullshit arrest. It was a great time to be young.

We could drive out to the adjacent suburban county and hit night spot after nightspot. The county was loaded with them. They were all open until 4AM and there were plenty of women looking to hook up. It was great. Now, they are all gone. DWI enforcement destroyed the local nightlife industry. Folks became so deathly afraid of getting stopped and having their life disrupted for a decade that they stopped going out. There was a thriving economy, which is now gone. Restaurants and diners used to depend on the late night crowd to stay in business. many closed now. its dead out there at night now. The cops, by being greedy, killed the goose that was laying their golden eggs.

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absolutely correct. You described the problem completely and gave egregious examples of police misconduct. You should have sued the cop for false arrest and denial of your civil rights. You are allowed to drink in your driveway. He didnt observe you driving drunk.

That blood test shit sucks. They dont have that ridiculous shit in my state. How can the government be allowed to do something as invasive as a blood test just to check compliance with a vehicle and traffic law? In my state, if you refuse, you will get your license suspended for a period of time. A judge would have to sign an order for a blood test, and that is only if there are serious injuries involved, never in the absence of an accident with injuries.

The DWI arrest has developed for two reasons, one is financial, the second is psychological.

Firstly, Over the last 25 -30 years, going back to when all this DWI hysteria started, thousands upon thousands of cops have become accustomed to the easy Overtime from a DWI arrest to pay their mortgage, and live above their means. Its too easy to just go out, pull someone over late at night, and make them blow. Two weeks later you have a few hundred bucks more in your paycheck.

The second reason is more nuanced. Many small police departments, apparently like where Gearhead writes about, have a police force that never gets to play cop. they never get to feel like the real cops they see on TV shows. they never to get to put the cuffs on someone and feel like they are catching bad guys. It bothers them. Never get an opportunity to feel like crime fighters, except for one type of incident, a DWI arrest. Thanks to DWI enforcement, they get an opportunity to feel like they are real cops, pulling folks out of the car, cuffing them, searching their car, fingerprinting them, and generally walking someone around in cuffs. In so many small towns and quieter areas, such as Mayberry, the cops never get to put their hands or handcuffs on anyone if it wasnt for a DWI arrest. They went for decades just being Barney Fife on a slow day. Their self esteem is lifted by pretending that they are fighting crime by catching outlaws, but in reality they are visiting misery on a harmless motorist.

Thanks to the national push for DWI arrests, assisted by federal money for checkpoints and DWI task forces, and multi-agency holiday operations, small towns and police departments have filled their coffers with funds related to DWI enforcement.

It is a new cottage industry. Proceeds from the sale of confiscated cars. court fees, fines, supervision fees, kickbacks from interlock companies to pass laws and and then get awarded the contracts to put their monitoring devices in defendants' cars. Kickbacks to lawyers for referring clients to unnecessary counselling. Counselling centers bilking insurance companies for unnecessary treatment. DWI classes. Driver responsibility fees assessed and collected for the government. Probation fees, insurance company surcharges. the list goes on and on. It has become an industry, and it criminalized two generations of americans.

It is a total scam, perpetuated and instigated by that fraudulent non profit of mad mothers. They started this whole bullshit.

You younger brothers have no idea how it used to be. Cops would make you walk home, throwing your keys in your trunk. or tell you to come by the precinct the next day to get the keys. they used to save arrests for real criminals. small town cops were happy serving the residents instead of alienating them by arresting them, all to pay their mortgage or feel like a big man.

I always drove in a big city since i learned to drive. DWI was a non issue. the cops had enough to do with real crime, they didnt bother with nonsense like that. Some of my friends growing up became cops. And we all got stopped growing up and were told to walk home. My man said, in the early 1980's when he was first a cop, if you brought a DWI or domestic violence arrest in, you were mocked by the boss and asked if you were afraid of the street by wanting to stay inside with a bullshit arrest. It was a great time to be young.

We could drive out to the adjacent suburban county and hit night spot after nightspot. The county was loaded with them. They were all open until 4AM and there were plenty of women looking to hook up. It was great. Now, they are all gone. DWI enforcement destroyed the local nightlife industry. Folks became so deathly afraid of getting stopped and having their life disrupted for a decade that they stopped going out. There was a thriving economy, which is now gone. Restaurants and diners used to depend on the late night crowd to stay in business. many closed now. its dead out there at night now. The cops, by being greedy, killed the goose that was laying their golden eggs.

I’m against you guys on this one.

This is just one of dozens of charts available.

I can slam 4 drinks in one hour and still stay below the limit ffs. I get where you guys are coming from, but I’ve witnessed too much tragedy from this issue and it seems like a no-brainer to me.

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a white male in a rural town 30 years ago , falling asleep in his car from drinking ,, would likely be left alone to sleep it off or would of been kindly driven home by an officer or the officer would of tried to call a family member to pick him up .. NOT shot twice in the back and murdered .
sleeping drunk in your car is a minor offense . no officer has a right to be judge jury and executioner .

another of your disingenuous posts, where you set up a straw man. The cop didnt act as a judge and jury or executioner. ANd the shooting was not for DWI. It was for illegally using an instrument capable of causing serious physical injury against the cop.

cops have gotten out of hand.
I realized this when I too had a very minor offense and had 5 cops throw me to the ground and draw guns to my head. over a "crime" I didn't even commit.. they themselves escalated the situation. had I been black perhaps I'd of likely been shot , idk.

and if you just complied with instructions, perhaps 5 cops wouldnt have felt the need to pull guns and put you on the ground. You must have done something to bring on that behaviour. I have been stopped by cops in my younger days. Pulled out of my car and had my car searched a couple of times. Once they said I had the same name in the computer as someone wanted, yet they never looked at my ID to match it to my plate. ANother time they said it was because my view was obstructed by my italian horn plastic thing hanging on my mirror. I didnt start shit with them. i knew couldnt win.

the guy in Atlanta should of lived to see another day . his response to the cops was to run and get away ... umm well yeah thats black culture, thats what you do. you try to get away cause other wise the system is going to imprison you and torture you . so of course he tried to run away.. but running away is a minor offense and no way should that minor of an offense result in getting shot in the back from a racist KKK cop

ANother strawman argument. You either didnt watch the video, and you are listening to the BLM propaganda, or you are purposefully distorting the facts. he WASNT shot for running away. He was shot for illegally using an instrument capable of causing serious physical injury or permanent impairment of bodily function against a cop. I do agree with you that the problem is black culture.

ANd what evidence do you have that either cop was a KKK member or a racist? Falsely claiming that the cop was racist and part of the KKK is like saying, absent of any proof, that Brooks was a black militant who just wanted to assasinate cops. Its the same kind of bullshit baseless smear.

They seemed very civil to him throughout the encounter. Be honest, if he didnt fight, run, and try to assault the cops, he would have been out of jail the next morning with a notice to appear.

I've said this before .. I used to be a runner and do 5ks etc.. but my knees and back are jacked up now. so I'm never running again .. unless its from the cops (hopefully I don't get shot in the back)

You go on and run from the cops, and let us know how that works out for you.