Time of day for injections

[GargaML]

Doesn't matter one little bit. Too many guys tend to micromanage it. Make TRT fit your lifestyle.

Roger that, thanks man. It’s my first injection and I find that I’m somewhat of a chickenshit. So I’m trying to time it to be during an interval where I have some courage.

I feel like I’m signing on for life like it or not. Probably not the right way to think about it. Thanks again.

[kelkel]

Roger that, thanks man. It’s my first injection and I find that I’m somewhat of a chickenshit. So I’m trying to time it to be during an interval where I have some courage.

I feel like I’m signing on for life like it or not. Probably not the right way to think about it. Thanks again.

You are signing on for life. A better, healthier one. Sticking yourself with needles is not normal, but you will get used to it.

So, tell me your exact protocol along with what size/gauge syringe you're using.

[GargaML]

You are signing on for life. A better, healthier one. Sticking yourself with needles is not normal, but you will get used to it.

So, tell me your exact protocol along with what size/gauge syringe you're using.

You got it. Its real simple

I have 6ml compounded test enanthate
Doc said 25 units twice per week subq. Im scheduled for labs and refill/reassessment by 8/30.
Thats it.

I also have cjc1295/ipamorelin in my fridge. I’m not sure if I’ll ever even touch that. Literally no info on it NOT from clinics 😂

You say for life. Freaks me out a lil. My test level is 700 last week. I have had scores of 600 as well. Im 40. If i freak out or my blood turns to gel or i get NO gains in the gym can i never stop and get back to normal? (Not that im planning to)

[GargaML]

You are signing on for life. A better, healthier one. Sticking yourself with needles is not normal, but you will get used to it.

So, tell me your exact protocol along with what size/gauge syringe you're using.

I forgot. 27 gauge 1.5 inch 100 unit syringe.

I also have 31 gauge.

[GargaML]

And yes, TRT is typically for life. You seem a little unsure about what you want to do and achieve. I would sit back for a minute and get a good handle on your goals before going forward. As discussed in another thread, I think, typical TRT doses are just going to get you to your natural production levels... it doesn't seem worth it to me, but everybody is different

Actually, I know exactly what I want out of this and how I’m going to evaluate success and failure. I want to feel better and more confident, I want all of my main lifts to increase, I want to get that Morningwood back. I want my fasting blood glucose to be 10 points lower. And I want my muscles to be slightly larger. I know that the small doses will not get you to 4000 ng/dl levels or anything like that, but everything I’ve read says people who do theseSmall doses end up with total testosterone well above the normal range, 1200, 1400, etc. is this not true?

Also, I know of a handful of people that have stopped after these doses. They seem to be fine. So why do people say it’s for life. I’m not hypogonadal. I’m not sure if I ever mentioned that.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Actually, I know exactly what I want out of this and how I’m going to evaluate success and failure. I want to feel better and more confident, I want all of my main lifts to increase, I want to get that Morningwood back. I want my fasting blood glucose to be 10 points lower. And I want my muscles to be slightly larger. I know that the small doses will not get you to 4000 ng/dl levels or anything like that, but everything I’ve read says people who do theseSmall doses end up with total testosterone well above the normal range, 1200, 1400, etc. is this not true?

Also, I know of a handful of people that have stopped after these doses. They seem to be fine. So why do people say it’s for life. I’m not hypogonadal. I’m not sure if I ever mentioned that.

People who do small doses are on TRT and the goal of TRT is to get people in the normal range of testosterone, not above the normal range.

I believe you are doing 0.25ccs or 0.25mls or 25units of 200mg/ml test C twice a week.
That works out to 100mg/week.

That is a TRT dose and most likely will barely get you above your natural levels.
(You stated that you tested at 600 and 700 before.)
Now you might test in at 800-900.

The reason people are telling you this is for life is because:
You are posting in the TRT section.
People are assuming you are on TRT precisely because you are hypogonadal.

I do not think it is worth going on a TRT level of test when you have perfect test levels to begin with.

[GargaML]

People who do small doses are on TRT and the goal of TRT is to get people in the normal range of testosterone, not above the normal range.

I believe you are doing 0.25ccs or 0.25mls or 25units of 200mg/ml test C twice a week.
That works out to 100mg/week.

That is a TRT dose and most likely will barely get you above your natural levels.
(You stated that you tested at 600 and 700 before.)
Now you might test in at 800-900.

The reason people are telling you this is for life is because:
You are posting in the TRT section.
People are assuming you are on TRT precisely because you are hypogonadal.

I do not think it is worth going on a TRT level of test when you have perfect test levels to begin with.

Thanks man. Only 800-900 huh? That doesnt sound great. I might test that and get back to you w 3 month labs in sept. If i can grow balls and do my first shot. ��

[GargaML]

Maybe pin 100 mcg each of the CJC and Ipamorelin. There is no chance of suppression there and you can get comfortable with sticking yourself.

One thing I do, because I'm frankly sort of a wuss about needles (though not like I was), is instead of stabbing, I press the needle in. It's all about speed. I think Dr Crisler has a video where he stabs himself subq, like real quick like. I take the needle and put it against my skin, then slowly apply pressure until it slides in. Then slowly inject. Boom. Over just like that, easy peasy.

I remember my first subq shot though. I was like you - kind of freaking out. Then when I did the shot like I described, I was like 'dang, thats it? I BARELY even felt it'

There’s actually some good method to your madness here. Unfortunately, I don’t care about the needle part. I have no problem doing that five times a day. It’s the irreparable damage to my system that I’m trying to avoid for little to no benefit. I can’t do a cost benefit if I don’t know the benefit or the cost

[kelkel]

People who do small doses are on TRT and the goal of TRT is to get people in the normal range of testosterone, not above the normal range.

I believe you are doing 0.25ccs or 0.25mls or 25units of 200mg/ml test C twice a week.
That works out to 100mg/week.

That is a TRT dose and most likely will barely get you above your natural levels.
(You stated that you tested at 600 and 700 before.)
Now you might test in at 800-900.

The reason people are telling you this is for life is because:
You are posting in the TRT section.
People are assuming you are on TRT precisely because you are hypogonadal.

I do not think it is worth going on a TRT level of test when you have perfect test levels to begin with.

Extremely well said.

[GargaML]

The 1.5 inch you can use to draw, but for subq use the 31g. That needle is probably something like 5/16" long... might be better to get some 29g 1/2" insulin syringes.

Do not be afraid of the cjc / ipamorelin combo. There is info all over the web on it.

Dude I messed up I meant it’s half an inch not one and a half inch