Masterone not worth using??

[yeahbuddy289]

So this was my first time using masterone... it was recommend I take it along side tren to help control the estrogen sides. With deca I always get painful/ultra sensitive nipples and I am experiencing the same thing with tren, even while taking masterone. The only estrogen related side effect I ever get is sensitive nipples... I don’t get bloated or watery. I guess I always get pretty severe acne on my back and shoulders.... you could probably contribute that to estrogen I suppose.

Anyways, if I’m still experiencing sensitive nipples, which is what I was trying to prevent with masterone, should I even bother using it anymore?

[Cuz]

U dont need an ai with tren, u need caber.

[Wannabhuge14]

Masteron will not help with sensitive nipples. You need an AI or something for prolactin if it’s deca and Tren bothering your nipples. If you are in Tren I would recommend caber if on deca I’d recommend aromasin .

Just my thoughts.....


I MOVE WEIGHT LIKE YOU MOVE YOUR MOUTH

Masteron blunts prolactin at the receptors so I'm not sure if caber is really going to make a difference. I think mast is far more effective than caber to begin with.

[Yard_Dog]

So this was my first time using masterone... it was recommend I take it along side tren to help control the estrogen sides. With deca I always get painful/ultra sensitive nipples and I am experiencing the same thing with tren, even while taking masterone. The only estrogen related side effect I ever get is sensitive nipples... I don’t get bloated or watery. I guess I always get pretty severe acne on my back and shoulders.... you could probably contribute that to estrogen I suppose.

Anyways, if I’m still experiencing sensitive nipples, which is what I was trying to prevent with masterone, should I even bother using it anymore?

What cycle are you running? Shouldn't use Mast unless your below 12%. If your using it for AI properties , there are much cheaper options. Dht won't convert thats true, but you haven't disclosed what other compounds are included in the stack.

[Yard_Dog]

I have have had the sensitive nipps with Npp and Mast. Was a Prolactin issue not E2. Caber handled that.

[yeahbuddy289]

I am on 400mg test e, 400mg mast e, 400mg tren e per week. I was going to start taking 20mg of novladex a day to prevent gyno... should I add caber in as well? If so what do you guys recommend? I have always done .25mg 2x week.

[< <Samson> >]

I have never ran mast E - but, prob close to a gallon of Mast P - Shit, I’m on it now(50mg eod)

As far as for bitch tit support - I suppose it helps a tad


I no longer run a Ai since I only run very small doses now

And, fuck Nolvadex too - that stuff kills my dick way too badly for me to run it again. I already got these fuckers out once

If there’s a next time, I’m getting lipo with it

[Yard_Dog]

Can't speak on Mast E, never seen it before. I could use about a gallon. I hate doing mast p eod (love the results though). Again I'd say it's probably "prolactin" caber will knock it out. Not the best at dosage (everyone is different) let one of the big guys make that suggestion.

[Mooseman33]

What cycle are you running? Shouldn't use Mast unless your below 12%. If your using it for AI properties , there are much cheaper options. Dht won't convert thats true, but you haven't disclosed what other compounds are included in the stack.

you can def run mast if over 12%.

mast is great, I just cant stay on to long.

[Wannabhuge14]

Not sure where you read or heard that mast blunts receptors but what I was saying is if he says the mast isn’t working and he still has sensitive nipples which is what he said ... he could try using caber while on deca/Tren as these both raise prolactin levels.. which can make your nipples sensitive...caber will combat this and may work for him. I’m just going off of the information that was given...


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Your first post said to use an ai or caber. Caber will work but the ai is kinda pointless since tren doesn't aromatize.

[< <Samson> >]

you can def run mast if over 12%.

mast is great, I just cant stay on to long.

Meh - the lower the bF% with mast tho, will give u much more noticeable results

What’s too long? I run this shit like it’s going out of style - even with eod shots

I do 50mg+ eod prob about 6 months out of the year

[yeahbuddy289]

So would you guys say I can probably forgo masterone in the future and just run caber? I know there are other benefits to it but I honestly don’t feel like it’s made any difference for me either way.

[Yard_Dog]

you can def run mast if over 12%.

mast is great, I just cant stay on to long.

You can also waste money at GNC on progenics. Mast typically works best at 12% or less. However you will still get the AI benefits, along with the DHT sides.

[yeahbuddy289]

So anyways... I know mast is effective for some people but, because it didn’t control my nipple issue, would it be safe to say I can probably forgo using it my next cycle?

[< <Samson> >]

Safe?! < LoL


Who knows dude - try dropping it if u didn’t like it

Nothing is ever safe


Is it safe for me to run this much gear, let alone after my issues?! Dunno

[charger69]

Safe?! < LoL


Who knows dude - try dropping it if u didn’t like it

Nothing is ever safe


Is it safe for me to run this much gear, let alone after my issues?! Dunno

I think you know the answer, you just don’t want to accept it. I am in the same boat. It’s not proven so not 100%. We just decide to play the odds.
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[yeahbuddy289]

Safe?! < LoL


Who knows dude - try dropping it if u didn’t like it

Nothing is ever safe


Is it safe for me to run this much gear, let alone after my issues?! Dunno

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn’t asking if if it was “safe” in the sense “will it harm me”. I was using an expression. “Is it safe to say” is like “would it be agreeable to say”. Sorry for any confusion.

[jstone]

mast e is no good compared to mast p, i have a bunch of mast e sitting here that i wont use. the difference between the two is night and day for me. before you give up on it i would try 600mg. in the future i would try mast p just to see if you like it.

[Wannabhuge14]

mast e is no good compared to mast p, i have a bunch of mast e sitting here that i wont use. the difference between the two is night and day for me. before you give up on it i would try 600mg. in the future i would try mast p just to see if you like it.

I have only used mast E and love it.

[charger69]

I have only used mast E and love it.

Used both. They both work for me. I normally use mast E until close to a show and I change to mast P.


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[Wannabhuge14]

Used both. They both work for me. I normally use mast E until close to a show and I change to mast P.


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That seems like the smart thing to do. I still inject long esters every day when on cycle.

[charger69]

That seems like the smart thing to do. I still inject long esters every day when on cycle.

Yep, presently doing deca daily. I know, overkill, but I got used to daily injections.
Daily injections are a lot easier than remembering what day is what oil. LOL
I do phase cycling so a cycle will probably consist of 9 or so different oils.


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[< <Samson> >]

mast e is no good compared to mast p, i have a bunch of mast e sitting here that i wont use. the difference between the two is night and day for me.

How so?

I never tried Mast E - I always just stick to P

[Wannabhuge14]

Yep, presently doing deca daily. I know, overkill, but I got used to daily injections.
Daily injections are a lot easier than remembering what day is what oil. LOL
I do phase cycling so a cycle will probably consist of 9 or so different oils.


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Same. I usually do three phases: estrogenic, anabolic, ending with androgenic. I respond best to that approach.

[Cuz]

If you don’t want to use mast then dont. Its just that simple, just about everyone that runs tren recommends it. Good luck with the cycle

[charger69]

Same. I usually do three phases: estrogenic, anabolic, ending with androgenic. I respond best to that approach.

Someone who understands me. LOL
I am about to go into the estrogenic phase. I grew like a weed, but had to modify the last time because of endema.
I was at 1.5 test and 6 iu HGH. Which should I lower? I am thinking to remain at 4 iu HGH.
I am going to keep deca, tren and ment where I was last time. Possibly lowering test to 1.2 mg


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[Octaneforce]

Mast is fantastic. Adds strength, hardness, and has the ability to blunt estrogen and prolactin. As for “dht sides” what that really is is the increase in free test. More free test allows for more dht conversion. But it also contributes to the strength and hardness. Mast itself cannot convert to dht because its already a derivative of dht.

OP, thats unfortunate you didnt benefit from mast. Its a great compound but we are all different. I hope the caber did the trick. Caber works wonders for me.

[ghettoboyd]

I use to have super thick hair like horse hair and just two runs with mast a year apart has left me with what will soon amount to the George Constanza look “festivus do the rest of us”...no one I’m my family is bald so that’s my take...beware

[< <Samson> >]

Bald


I had a receding hair line since early 20’s

Out of all sides, hair loss - isn’t one I care about


More like, it causes my body hair to grow way faster as I crank up the dose

[ghettoboyd]

Bald


I had a receding hair line since early 20’s

Out of all sides, hair loss - isn’t one I care about


More like, it causes my body hair to grow way faster as I crank up the dose

Oh yes the body hair is going strong it ironic really...but yea it the least of my worries as I’m old as fuck...

[charger69]

Oh yes the body hair is going strong it ironic really...but yea it the least of my worries as I’m old as fuck...

You are young yet!! You aren’t fooling us.


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[< <Samson> >]

Oh yes the body hair is going strong it ironic really...but yea it the least of my worries as I’m old as fuck...

How old is old?

Shit, I’m 40 going on 63


Riiight, body hair is taking over - hair on my head is running away from my face

[ghettoboyd]

How old is old?

Shit, I’m 40 going on 63


Riiight, body hair is taking over - hair on my head is running away from my face

I’m 49 next March...but I feel about 90 still dealing with Lyme symptoms daily...

[< <Samson> >]

I’m 49 next March...but I feel about 90 still dealing with Lyme symptoms daily...

Ouch, fuck

49 - wow, shit - I feel like I aged a decade this year

[ghettoboyd]

Ouch, fuck

49 - wow, shit - I feel like I aged a decade this year

I can only imagine my friend you have gone though hell and made it back in what I can assume is record time for recovery of an injury that could have taken your life at any minute...respect brother

[Charlie67]

So would you guys say I can probably forgo masterone in the future and just run caber? I know there are other benefits to it but I honestly don’t feel like it’s made any difference for me either way.

Disclaimer: Tren E messes me up, Ace seems much easier for me.... and I LOVE Mast when on Tren.

I know we are all different, but if you're looking for another option, I would stay on the Mast, skip the caber and ....gasp... drop the Test down to 200-250. ( I can feel your look of horror at the suggestion). I know, I know.... but I had the exact same thing happen to me, on that exact cycle, 400mg test e, 400mg mast e, 400mg tren e per week. When my nipples started hurting, at the suggestion of someone around here, I halved the Test and ran Nolva for about 2 weeks, and finished just fine. Now 250mg test e, 400mg mast e, 400mg tren ACE per week is my favorite cycle.

Best of luck brother,
C-

[yeahbuddy289]

I have worried about masterone and it’s negative affects on hair... I don’t have much going for me so if I lose my hair it’s all over! Lol

[< <Samson> >]

I’m so happy that I pull off a solid bald look, specially after getting big

Some guys kinda “need” hair

[Testie]

So this was my first time using masterone... it was recommend I take it along side tren to help control the estrogen sides. With deca I always get painful/ultra sensitive nipples and I am experiencing the same thing with tren, even while taking masterone. The only estrogen related side effect I ever get is sensitive nipples... I don’t get bloated or watery. I guess I always get pretty severe acne on my back and shoulders.... you could probably contribute that to estrogen I suppose.

Anyways, if I’m still experiencing sensitive nipples, which is what I was trying to prevent with masterone, should I even bother using it anymore?

whenever I use Tren I use masteron and match the dose however I always use the shorter acting esters for each, I was developing a gyno type situation and someone told me about the masteron before that I was using .25 caber eod but was able to drop it and go with masteron alone and I can say the masteron not only stopped the prolactin levels from rising it also gave me a grainy affect and it seemed to help libido, but if it’s not working for you it’s not working I would definitely get some caber...also if you are taking say large levels of test that may need to be addressed in a different way as that’s a different issue.

[yeahbuddy289]

I’m on 400mg test cyp/400mg mast e/400mg tren e per week.. nothing too crazy. Another reason I will probably not use mast again is the higher risk for hair loss. I couldn’t pull off the bald look and my wife would never forgive me!! Lol