New to anabolics - first cycle 34 yo M

[Albedo121]

Thanks to both of you guys for the reply! And thanks for the PM chark. Sounds like I should stick with the 500/week then - just figured it might help to not over do it first round. I’ll also make sure to invest in some clomid and HCG but was hoping to not use too many things at once.

[Chark]

Thanks to both of you guys for the reply! And thanks for the PM chark. Sounds like I should stick with the 500/week then - just figured it might help to not over do it first round. I’ll also make sure to invest in some clomid and HCG but was hoping to not use too many things at once.

500 test has been suggested as thee newbie cycle for a long time. From what I’ve gathered you really don’t need that much. Sure, you want to take enough to make shutting yourself down worth it for you and you want to use enough that’ll give you a net gain after PCT period steals back some of the mass but natural test gives you roughly 50mg/week so 500 is TEN TIMES what you produce naturally. It’s not bad, I started with 500 test, 500 test works, has been a staple for a long time, and there may be other factors I haven’t considered...but I do think I could’ve gone a tad lower my first time and still made solid progress.

Just food for thought

[Albedo121]

500 test has been suggested as thee newbie cycle for a long time. From what I’ve gathered you really don’t need that much. Sure, you want to take enough to make shutting yourself down worth it for you and you want to use enough that’ll give you a net gain after PCT period steals back some of the mass but natural test gives you roughly 50mg/week so 500 is TEN TIMES what you produce naturally. It’s not bad, I started with 500 test, 500 test works, has been a staple for a long time, and there may be other factors I haven’t considered...but I do think I could’ve gone a tad lower my first time and still made solid progress.

Just food for thought

This was exactly my thought process initially! But I do think it makes sense that if you're going to shut down the system that you might as well get solid gains out of it. I might do a smidge more research as well before but it doesn't seem unreasonable to use that much test. I'm just seeing some pretty large test numbers from even 150-200mg weekly which is interesting but I'm sure SHBG and general genetics probably play a large part.

[Albedo121]

Also - special shout out to Chark for being awesome and helping me a ton via PMs!

[Hughinn]

Thanks to both of you guys for the reply! And thanks for the PM chark. Sounds like I should stick with the 500/week then - just figured it might help to not over do it first round. I’ll also make sure to invest in some clomid and HCG but was hoping to not use too many things at once.

I would use as little as possible to get decent results.

You're still a young man, there's no reason to go all in yet.

[Chark]

I would use as little as possible to get decent results.

You're still a young man, there's no reason to go all in yet.

Hughinn you look amazing man!