Governor: All sources of power in Texas have been compromised

[Hughinn]

And so when is Governor Abbot going to admit he and his legislators fvuked up for not requiring the windmills from having de-icing equipment in place? When is he going to admit to fvuking up for not having enough natural gas for those plants? When is he going to admit that you can't allow crooks with essentially monopolies dictate policy?

There are only 2 things Abbot and everybody in the Texas government can do at this point:

1) Assume the blame for fvuking up.
2) Put together a plan that is independently verified to prevent something similar in the future.


Instead of throwing blame on the climate changing experts or whatever else they can to keep themselves out hot water, the people of Texas deserve accountability and more importantly they deserve this to be fixed.

They'll do what establishment politicians always do, and blame it on something else.

Republicans blame it on "green energy" or "environmental activists"
Democrats blame everything on "racism" or "inequality" or the boogeyman.

Thats what they all do when they fuck up.

But I live right here where the shitbwent down and I can tell you this: talk all the leftist bullshit you want, but if you happen to buy your power from the right producers, your power stayed on.

I was here, I seen it first hand. If you were a member of a co op with its own little gas plant , more than likely your power stayed on. If you bought it from the big utility companies who produced it from coal gas or whatever, then maybe it stayed on maybe it didn't. If you lived in the cities, or in west or south Texas where the wind and solar farms are, you were shit out of luck.

Eyewitness observation

[Honkey_Kong]

They'll do what establishment politicians always do, and blame it on something else.

Republicans blame it on "green energy" or "environmental activists"
Democrats blame everything on "racism" or "inequality" or the boogeyman.

Thats what they all do when they fuck up.

But I live right here where the shitbwent down and I can tell you this: talk all the leftist bullshit you want, but if you happen to buy your power from the right producers, your power stayed on.

I was here, I seen it first hand.

I'm hardly a "leftist" so don't be throwing that trope around. I actually hate both sides to that false coin equally and if you noticed. I didn't call one person a "righty" or "lefty." They're all there. They all share the blame.

[Hughinn]

I'm hardly a "leftist" so don't be throwing that trope around. I actually hate both sides to that false coin equally and if you noticed. I didn't call one person a "righty" or "lefty." They're all there. They all share the blame.

You're right about that. And I wasn't trying label you brother. Sorry if it came off that way.

I can say this too, having personally erected wind turbines in the early 2000s in westbtexas and the panhandle. I can saybthat some of them around dumas and Amarillo did have the thermal heating packages installed. I can personally verify that, I seen it with my own eyes. They had de icing wiring in the blades and rotor cells. There was extra shitbto hook up and install, then test.

But none of them much further south than Amarillo had any of that. Because at the time, the weather trends and regulations didn't require it. Just like building codes change by region, so did those.

And with everyone howling about global warming non stop all the time, who seen a big freeze in the deep south coming?

It is what it is. Its nearly 70 degrees today. Normally in the 60s or so in February

[The Deadlifting Dog]

And with everyone howling about global warming non stop all the time, who seen a big freeze in the deep south coming?

First thing first... it happened 10 years ago.

And secondly... climate change scientists specifically talk about changes in the weather patterns... more extremes if you will... less predictability.
So the scientists had it right.

Global warming doesn't cause a uniform temperature change on Earth.
The global thermal dynamics or weather patterns or whatever it is called is very complex.

For example:
Last I saw the North East actually gets colder at first.
It has to do with the sea current changing.
(I could be totally wrong about this.)

[Hughinn]

First thing first... it happened 10 years ago.

And secondly... climate change scientists specifically talk about changes in the weather patterns... more extremes if you will... less predictability.
So the scientists had it right.

Global warming doesn't cause a uniform temperature change on Earth.
The global thermal dynamics or weather patterns or whatever it is called is very complex.

For example:
Last I saw the North East actually gets colder at first.
It has to do with the sea current changing.
(I could be totally wrong about this.)

So you're an expert on global warming then? Because I thought you were a bond salesman.

And no, it happened last week. At least the part I'm talking about did.

But, maybe you should be educating all these scientists that claim the weathers getting warmer. Because it's not getting warmer in Texas. Lol.

I do digress though, that unpredictable weather patterns are the primary culprit, more than green energy , politics or anything else. However, like it or not, wind and solar are less reliable. And thats just a fact. Doesn't mean we shouldn't use or invest in them. But my opinion is we need to be realistic about what they can really do.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

So you're an expert on global warming then? Because I thought you were a bond salesman.

And no, it happened last week.

But, maybe you should be educating all these scientists that claim the weathners getting warmer. Because it's not getting warmer in Texas.

I do digress though, that unpredictable weather patterns are the primary culprit, more than green energy or anything else. However, like it or not, wind and solar are less reliable. And thats just a fact.

You obviously misunderstood me.
Texas had a massive ice and snow storm in 2011.

Winter storm blackouts plagued Texas in 2011, too. Recommendations made afterward went unenforced.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

So Texans knew this shit happens in Texas.


And yes... the average global temperature is rising.
But that also means that the weather patterns can change.

But I am no expert.

Do you believe in man made climate change?

[Hughinn]

You obviously misunderstood me.
Texas had a massive ice and snow storm in 2011.

Winter storm blackouts plagued Texas in 2011, too. Recommendations made afterward went unenforced.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

So Texans knew this shit happens in Texas.


And yes... the average global temperature is rising.
But that also means that the weather patterns can change.

But I am no expert.

Do you believe in man made climate change?

I've lived in Texas since 1996. I remember the 2011 snow and ice storm because I was here and seen it.

Aside from the wind turbines fucking up, like they always do, the problem was more about ice accumulation breaking trees and affecting power lines.
Again, I was here. I seen it. Ice accumulation was inches thick on almost every thing for a few days.

I guess that was global warming too huh? An ice storm?

It doesn't matter what I believe as far climate change. Because that's the new gospel of the fanatics now. Speak against it and your fucked