First Cycle, let me know if this is good

[rise_against]

You need to wait for the test e to clear your system before you pct. Go off for 4-6 weeks and then pct. It has like a 8 day half life and will supress you for 5 full half lives. Also don't use dbol. You don't need it during the first cycle

[Vasculardiscuss]

You need to wait for the test e to clear your system before you pct. Go off for 4-6 weeks and then pct. It has like a 8 day half life and will supress you for 5 full half lives. Also don't use dbol. You don't need it during the first cycle

No, I don't agree with that. Go look at the start time sticky in pct. Test E,14 days after.

You have your timing right on pct, keep it two weeks after last pin.

You don't need both climid and nolvadex... I would recommend using both, I personally use both in pct

[rise_against]

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[rise_against]

No, I don't agree with that. Go look at the start time sticky in pct. Test E,14 days after.

You have your timing right on pct, keep it two weeks after last pin.

You don't need both climid and nolvadex... I would recommend using both, I personally use both in pct

That's old bro science If it's still in your system at unnatural levels it's going to continue to supress you. Clomid and nova doesn't clear it out faster. It will do nothing until it clears your system. Studies show 5 half lives before it's low enough for a pct to have an effect. For test e that's like 6+ weeks minimum. Test prop might be 2 weeks.. long lasting esters can take months on end

[Vasculardiscuss]

That's old bro science If it's still in your system at unnatural levels it's going to continue to supress you. Clomid and nova doesn't clear it out faster. It will do nothing until it clears your system. Studies show 5 half lives before it's low enough for a pct to have an effect. For test e that's like 6+ weeks minimum. Test prop might be 2 weeks.. long lasting esters can take months on end

I see the point your trying to make, I still don't agree. I have successfully recovered from cycling anabolics with the sticky recommended PCT here at this forum. And many others have as well.

It's not old bro science, it's proven to work. There's no reason to fix what is not broken with this new age bro science bullshit.

[Chark]

You need to wait for the test e to clear your system before you pct. Go off for 4-6 weeks and then pct. It has like a 8 day half life and will supress you for 5 full half lives. Also don't use dbol. You don't need it during the first cycle

This is contrary to the advice often seen here of 2 weeks but I have also heard the 5 full half lives on a moreplates moredates video. I believe it was called "90% of bb'ers have never done a proper PCT." Anyway, that's a whole different conversation. OP you'll be fine, just use test and forget about the dbol. Follow the rest of what you learned already here. Let us know if you have anymore questions.