Derek Chauvin files for new trial after murder conviction in George Floyd case

[wango]

This guy was innocent too, again better legal representation. You got to pay for better lawyers when you f-up. Or of course complain that it was all “fixed” after you lose . . . .

The Juice puts on the gloves at 1:30.

[Hughinn]

This guy was innocent too, again better legal representation. You got to pay for better lawyers when you f-up. Or of course complain that it was all “fixed” after you lose . . . .

The Juice puts on the gloves at 1:30.

Of course the true travesty is that you're openly pointing out that ones ability to "pay" for justice through being able to "afford" the "right" legal representation was essentially his downfall in the case of Mr Chauvin as opposed to Mr Simpson, who got away with the brutal murder of two people.

In other words, Chauvin was a poor white cop, and not a rich liberal. So he couldn't "afford" justice. Therefore in reality, he deserves what he got. Because of what he is.

Sadly, I believe you're right for the most part, notwithstanding the idea that he deserved it simply for being a poor white cop. But that his financial status and current political climate dictated his fate more than the facts of the case. Same with Mr Simpson

And that is the true travesty of the situation. Not just in these cases, but in our justice system and society in general.

[wango]

Of course the true travesty is that you're openly admitting that ones ability to "pay" for justice through being able to "afford" the "right" legal representation was essentially his downfall in the case of Mr Chauvin as opposed to Mr Simpson, who got away with the brutal murder of two people.

In other words, Chauvin was a poor white cop, and not a rich liberal. So he couldn't "afford" justice. Therefore in your mind, he deserves what he got.

Sadly, I believe you're right for the most part, notwithstanding the idea that he deserved it simply for being a poor white cop. But that his financial status and current political climate dictated his fate more than the facts of the case. Same with Mr Simpson

And that is the true travesty of the situation.

You happened to leave out the other half of my two posts. The one where “the poor white cops” got off.

Well for Derrick, if he had so many supporters and so many convinced that he wasn’t going to get a fair shake, you think someone could have helped aid/fund his defense. Perhaps they knew too that is was hopeless as he was as guilty as stated and no one could make an argument otherwise. In other words, why flush more $ down the toilet because of this guys ridiculous actions.

As stated prior, by all means let him free. For fun, let’s start a pool as to just how long he lasts on the streets.

[Hughinn]

You happened to leave out the other half of my two posts. The one where “the poor white cops” got off.

Well for Derrick, if he had so many supporters and so many convinced that he wasn’t going to get a fair shake, you think someone could have helped aid/fund his defense. Perhaps they knew too that is was hopeless as he was as guilty as stated and no one could make an argument otherwise. In other words, why flush more $ down the toilet because of this guys ridiculous actions.

As stated prior, by all means let him free. For fun, let’s start a pool as to just how long he lasts on the streets.

No point in starting a pool.

That would be pretending that a poor white cop would get the same legal representation as a rich liberal in a court of law.

We all know that's not going to happen.

One is celebrated for murdering two people intentionally and maliciously, the other is hated for doing a thankless job and unintentionally causing a an unfortunate casualty.

Thier crimes, and the punishment or justice served or not served had more to do with political climate and desires of the powers that rule, than justice itself or fairness in judgment.

[wango]

No point in starting a pool.

That would be pretending that a poor white cop would get the same legal representation as a rich liberal in a court of law.

We all know that's not going to happen.

One is celebrated for murdering two people intentionally and maliciously, the other is hated for doing a thankless job and unintentionally causing a an unfortunate casualty.

Thier crimes, and the punishment or justice served or not served had more to do with political climate and desires of the powers that rule, than justice itself or fairness in judgment.

But again, you left out the fact that the cops that beat Rodney got off. My point was that maybe he needed better representation, but most felt it was a lost cause, but not with the cops in the Rodney case.

If I’m not mistaken, at the time OJ wasn’t really about being liberal. He was about money and money out here as it is many places is red and blue. Yeah and nobody is celebrating Derrick for his “unfortunate casualty”? Really, nobody?

You can’t make up the ludicrousness of some of the stuff happening lately. I truly understand where you are coming from and not trying to disrespect that in any way. Maybe you will see things differently when you get into your 60’s. It would be nice posting with you then just to see, but I’ll likely be dead, lol.

[Hughinn]

But again, you left out the fact that the cops that beat Rodney got off. My point was that maybe he needed better representation, but most felt it was a lost cause, but not with the cops in the Rodney case.

If I’m not mistaken, at the time OJ wasn’t really about being liberal. He was about money and money out here as it is many places is red and blue. Yeah and nobody is celebrating Derrick for his “unfortunate casualty”? Really, nobody?

You can’t make up the ludicrousness of some of the stuff happening lately. I truly understand where you are coming from and not trying to disrespect that in any way. Maybe you will see things differently when you get into your 60’s. It would be nice posting with you then just to see, but I’ll likely be dead, lol.

I don't take any disrespect from anything you say to me wango. I know you're a true student of knowledge and a teacher of what you learn. Like me, you've got more questions than answers. And every one answer seems to yield 3 questions. So we just go on. Some things I'm sure of. Others not so much.

In truth my perspective has changed over time. But the basic tenets have not.

I wish I had you as a teacher in my youth.

I think we could've enjoyed the time together.

[wango]

I don't take any disrespect from anything you say to me wango. I know you're a true student of knowledge and a teacher of what you learn. Like me, you've got more questions than answers. And every one answer seems to yield 3 questions. So we just go on. Some things I'm sure of. Others not so much.

In truth my perspective has changed over time. But the basic tenets have not.

I wish I had you as a teacher in my youth.

I think we could've enjoyed the time together.

Thanks Hughinn.

What’s cool is when I learn from my students (not referring to you as a student, not the intent. Just that you always can learn from anyone at any time, if your mind is open). They will say something that gives me a “holy-f**K” moment. Like, how the hell did you come up with that at 16 or 17?

I’m hoping that we are enjoying the here and now. I’m trying to more and more lately. Glad to have you here.

10 days left in the working world, I’ve put in my time.