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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    I've always found enormous irony in many Americans who call people like Hamas and Al queda "cowards".

    Anybody willing to give thier life without hesitation for what they're fighting for and what they believe in is not a coward. They may we'll be justifiably called alot of things. But "cowards" is not one of them
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    On the flip side, how many "brave" american citizens are willing to die for what they believe? And how many sit back, cringing under the blankets of comfort and excess, and only poking thier noses out just long enough to make an impotent fuckin threat before ducking thier heads and falling in line?

    "Cowards"?

    Indeed. When observed objectively these same "brave" souls wouldn't give up a moderate measure of their own comfort for what they believe. Much less thier very lives.

    I'd extend some basic logic to those "brave" souls accusing others like Hamas of cowardice : history shows that Hamas can win. Because they'll fight for what they believe until they do.

    History shows, those "brave" souls I'm speaking of, cannot ever win. Because, victory and/or defeat are a temporary state of affairs, to be renegotiated anytime conditions allow. But it requires the willingness to sacrifice in order to test your chances at any given time.

    Cowardice is a permanent state of affairs, corraled by impotence and neverending perpetual defeat. Only an inch at a time and one small humiliation at a time. Constantly suffering small defeat but never with any chance of victory.
    Anyone who hides behind innocents or baits a military to attack soft targets full of civilians simply to create a public relations nuisance is definitely a coward in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernst View Post
    Anyone who hides behind innocents or baits a military to attack soft targets full of civilians simply to create a public relations nuisance is definitely a coward in my book.
    Like maybe the IRA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    Like maybe the IRA?
    Perhaps it's my upbringing talking more than fact, but I don't remember the IRA launching rocket attacks on totally civilian targets from schools and hospitals. Melting into the populace is a little different than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernst View Post
    Perhaps it's my upbringing talking more than fact, but I don't remember the IRA launching rocket attacks on totally civilian targets from schools and hospitals. Melting into the populace is a little different than that...
    Is it?

    The IRA on occasions intentionally targeted civilians, including women and children to draw English authorities to the area, so they could detonate IED's. From nearby trying to maximize casualties, then melt into the population.

    https://qr.ae/pGyNVq

    Although the scale of the conflict was smaller than hamas/isreal, so accordingly the numbers and weapons were different, the roles are not that much different really. IRA/Hamas vs occupiers in thier nation England/Israel. Very similar.

    Like you had said before, the roles of villains and heroes depends on perspective.

    And nobody willing to die and kill for thier cause is a coward.

    Hamas was and is elected by the Palestinians. To many Palestinians hamas is the heroes. Amd isreal the cowards. Because it's all perspective. Desperate people take drastic and desperate measures. Whether they're hamas, the IRA, or the U.S government.
    Last edited by Hughinn; 05-21-2021 at 08:17 AM.

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