Shutdown is shutdown .
Test is a base for any course .
many people run only anavar but its wrong .
if u looking for gain , u got from dinabol with test for first cycle 12-14 weeks.
if u want a bit kick , its yrs , u can run anavar , but for mu opinion , u will not get what u looking for
Not : Run only anavar with out TEST, u will not need Pct , only run nolv for 10-12 days 20mg