First Cycle, First side effect

[Chicagotarsier]

Yeah, I’m aware of the benefits of Hcg, I just feel as a beginner it’s a lot of needles. Should I just suck it up and hop onto Hcg? If so should I go straight to 250iu or would I need a high dose as I haven’t started right away.

Also to state, the nut ache is tolerable and I could tolerate it throughout the cycle if I wanted. Just want to limit any unnecessary damage

Speaking for doctors the lowest dose hCG prescribed is 2 x 1000 weekly for males. There is a lot more going on when taking hCG than a testicale pain remover. Working backward from the testicales toward the release of LH you find several mechanisms that actually impact your muscle gain vs fat gain. Historically this is why Primo was the juice of choice during Arnold's era. Even at doses of 1-5 grams weekly the LH secretion was not shut down hard until the 16 week point. The theory was LH active in the system removed many of the fat gains while bulking. This makes sense when you realise hCG is basically a mimic of LH and both are fat burners (hCG an incredible one). All of that said to say if all you want is to remove nutache yeah 500 a week would be enough. 500 a week is not enough to impact the HPG Axis for "restart help" or maintain well being during cycle.. The actual doctor treatment for HPG restart is a single 10000 iu shot after 4 weeks of 3x1500iu pins. Right now hCG is a lot of bro science because it has not been readily available at pharma quality. Also FYI any way other than a pin to get hCG in the system is worthless. There is a lot of pills and drops and they are all BS. As I posted before you take a big estrogen hit when you pin hCG. An exact example is 500 mg test e a week without AI put me at 1.8x top of range estrogen. 2x1000iu shots a week hCG added to that routine resulted in 2.5x top of range estrogen. It is a very significant hit. Rule of thumb is the hit is +50 percent the hit you take from 500 mg test E. If you are not seeing estrogen raise with hCG then your stuff is bunk.

Good luck on your cycle and use of hCG

[lawrie95]

Speaking for doctors the lowest dose hCG prescribed is 2 x 1000 weekly for males. There is a lot more going on when taking hCG than a testicale pain remover. Working backward from the testicales toward the release of LH you find several mechanisms that actually impact your muscle gain vs fat gain. Historically this is why Primo was the juice of choice during Arnold's era. Even at doses of 1-5 grams weekly the LH secretion was not shut down hard until the 16 week point. The theory was LH active in the system removed many of the fat gains while bulking. This makes sense when you realise hCG is basically a mimic of LH and both are fat burners (hCG an incredible one). All of that said to say if all you want is to remove nutache yeah 500 a week would be enough. 500 a week is not enough to impact the HPG Axis for "restart help" or maintain well being during cycle.. The actual doctor treatment for HPG restart is a single 10000 iu shot after 4 weeks of 3x1500iu pins. Right now hCG is a lot of bro science because it has not been readily available at pharma quality. Also FYI any way other than a pin to get hCG in the system is worthless. There is a lot of pills and drops and they are all BS. As I posted before you take a big estrogen hit when you pin hCG. An exact example is 500 mg test e a week without AI put me at 1.8x top of range estrogen. 2x1000iu shots a week hCG added to that routine resulted in 2.5x top of range estrogen. It is a very significant hit. Rule of thumb is the hit is +50 percent the hit you take from 500 mg test E. If you are not seeing estrogen raise with hCG then your stuff is bunk.

Good luck on your cycle and use of hCG

So what you’re saying is 500 iu a week is mainly bro science?
It’s why I’m always unsure what sources to trust

[Test Monsterone]

So what you’re saying is 500 iu a week is mainly bro science?
It’s why I’m always unsure what sources to trust

I read a study that found around 750 units of HCG mimics endogenous testosterone production, so I don't think 2000 units a week is right. HCG degrades over time once you mix it. So I find I need to inject 25% more by the end of 2 months to get the same benefit.

I agree with Moose, HCG is easy peasy to pin. I use 30 guage, 3/8" insulin syringes. Usually no pain or a tiny pinch and it almost never bleeds. Stay within 2" around the belly button.

Inject the HCG the day before you inject test. Ideally you would inject HCG EOD, but I do every 3rd day, a day before my test shot.