Staggering compounds

[SampsonandDelilah]

Few if any of us are trying to become an open pro let alone a classic physique top 10 Mr Olympia class contender, thus my point and why 99% of us do not need to push it and take risks to just be big or whatever. Being the biggest I can be is not healthy and not aesthetic; I know how to get there but I would rather live longer and be healthy.

Front loading is all ego, test is full blast in our systems in 48 hours post first IM, no need to front load. It feels good and all that but is a waste, better to burn that gear at the end when the gains have slowed to a crawl or stopped.

If I wanted to be a refrigerator I know what to take.


To each their own. We all want to be bigger, for most of us why not do it as safe and healthy as possible.....esp after the many, many, many deaths in bodybuilding in 2021.

Ummm, no. It’s about it’s all about pharmacology, trough and peak plasma levels, peak blood levels, half life’s, trough (specifically c-trough) and serum levels (did I forget one?)

But ok, forget science for a minute (we won’t pretend that matters) it’s not about ego at all. You do understand different esters, correct? (Damn, back to science). 7 and 8 - carbon ester chains Vs the short 3-carbon ester chain for example?

Sorry, rambling again. Stupid science.

Granted not everyone benefits from it, but please don’t tell me it’s about ego…maybe you have the term confused?

And “like a refrigerator”?

Front loading has ZERO to do with that either. Sure, lots of milligrams, but now I think we’re talking calories, right? Not even the same discussion. Although there is the science of nutrition…I digress…

And the “many many many deaths of 2021” are attributed to front loading and being a refrigerator? Front loading test or deca (where it’s most common and what was recommended) isn’t dangerous at all. Maybe if you’re slamming Piana-esque amounts of test and Tren (3-4K) then maybe (instead of ace to enth)

What octaneforce recommend had nothing to do with any of this, other than recommending NPP to jump start a cycle and transition to Deca after the nandrolone is at peak plasma concentration…no difference with jumpstarting a test only cycle with prop OR FRONTLOADING enth or cyp.

Just don’t spit your anecdotes and opinions as facts, because they aren’t at all.

Or maybe preface it with “it is my opinion that xxxxx”

Just a thought

[Iranon]

Ummm, no. It’s about it’s all about pharmacology, trough and peak plasma levels, peak blood levels, half life’s, trough (specifically c-trough) and serum levels (did I forget one?)

But ok, forget science for a minute (we won’t pretend that matters) it’s not about ego at all. You do understand different esters, correct? (Damn, back to science). 7 and 8 - carbon ester chains Vs the short 3-carbon ester chain for example?

Sorry, rambling again. Stupid science.

You sound like a commie Covid propagandist with those sound bites. Too funny.

Thanks for the laugh and ignoring the point.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Uhhhh??? It should be me thanking you for the laugh.

Fantastic response though…nice job taking it personally and then lashing out. Good luck harboring your deep rooted insecurities and your absolute blindness to facts. Name calling will get you everywhere.

I had a feeling you were a clown, thank you for confirming it.

You sound like a commie Covid propagandist with those sound bites. Too funny.

Thanks for the laugh and ignoring the point.