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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    I don’t really have enough experience with 19 nors with “on cycle “ bloodwork to make a fair comparison on whether they would effect your total T numbers by that much, i mean that is quite a bit, it still seems underdosed to me. Id like to hear Kels opinion on that one
    Totally agree. I only know they “suppress”, to what degree I haven’t a clue.

    Kind of a bummer, I mean if you take the time to brew it and it still has hormone in it, why not QC that shit so it’s at maximum dose? Maybe I have a bad batch, shit happens and certainly not pointing fingers. Also, maybe I have receptor burnout, I know it exists.

    Agreed, would like to hear KK and AG or anyone else that may have some experience. I think the more labs we share, the better we can accrue data and mine it collectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Totally agree. I only know they “suppress”, to what degree I haven’t a clue.

    Kind of a bummer, I mean if you take the time to brew it and it still has hormone in it, why not QC that shit so it’s at maximum dose? Maybe I have a bad batch, shit happens and certainly not pointing fingers. Also, maybe I have receptor burnout, I know it exists.

    Agreed, would like to hear KK and AG or anyone else that may have some experience. I think the more labs we share, the better we can accrue data and mine it collectively.
    Let me see if I can find some of my older land when I ran higher dosages

    Your E2 does seem light

    Everyone is different vdeoending on SHBG levels in regards to free T, E2 conversion.
    150mg of pharma cyp puts me at or just over the top of LabCorp range (948 or so?), but really puts my free T high, but my SHBG is low. Also my E2 generally runs lower end.

    I'll dig through my part this weekend and see if I can find something relevant to your dosages.

    The 10x formula is a very rough average that isn't useful applying across the entire population. Too much variation in people's physiology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Totally agree. I only know they “suppress”, to what degree I haven’t a clue.

    Kind of a bummer, I mean if you take the time to brew it and it still has hormone in it, why not QC that shit so it’s at maximum dose? Maybe I have a bad batch, shit happens and certainly not pointing fingers. Also, maybe I have receptor burnout, I know it exists.

    Agreed, would like to hear KK and AG or anyone else that may have some experience. I think the more labs we share, the better we can accrue data and mine it collectively.
    Let me see if I can find some of my older labs when I ran higher dosages

    Your E2 does seem light

    Everyone is different depending on SHBG levels in regards to free T, E2 conversion.

    150mg of pharma cyp puts me at or just over the top of LabCorp range (948 or so?), but really puts my free T high, but my SHBG is low. Also my E2 generally runs lower end.

    I'll dig through my part this weekend and see if I can find something relevant to your dosages.

    The 10x formula is a very rough average that isn't useful applying across the entire population. Too much variation in people's physiology.
    There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Let me see if I can find some of my older labs when I ran higher dosages

    Your E2 does seem light

    Everyone is different depending on SHBG levels in regards to free T, E2 conversion.

    150mg of pharma cyp puts me at or just over the top of LabCorp range (948 or so?), but really puts my free T high, but my SHBG is low. Also my E2 generally runs lower end.

    I'll dig through my part this weekend and see if I can find something relevant to your dosages.

    The 10x formula is a very rough average that isn't useful applying across the entire population. Too much variation in people's physiology.

    I’m also running masteron AND proviron which would correlate with what you’re saying

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    14 hour work day....2.5 hours travel time. I got to hit the rack. Hopefully a week off coming up. I got to bush hog and cut grass. Wife says she saw a rhino peeking out of the field today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    14 hour work day....2.5 hours travel time. I got to hit the rack. Hopefully a week off coming up. I got to bush hog and cut grass. Wife says she saw a rhino peeking out of the field today.
    Sounds like a good day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Sounds like a good day
    LOL, it did a good job of whooping my @ss!!
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