upcoming cycle thoughts

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I've been on trt for 3 years. I just switched to injectable 4 weeks ago. I was on the gel.

I made some good gains with var the other two cycles I did while I was on the gel.

Also, the PA that wrote the test c script is a huge proponent of gear. So he has no problem with what I'm on. He even gave me some ideas of the cycles that he likes and has used. So my blood work will come from him if I do a blast.

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I've been on trt for 3 years. I just switched to injectable 4 weeks ago. I was on the gel.

I made some good gains with var the other two cycles I did while I was on the gel.

Also, the PA that wrote the test c script is a huge proponent of gear. So he has no problem with what I'm on. He even gave me some ideas of the cycles that he likes and has used. So my blood work will come from him if I do a blast.

What were your test levels like on the gel? I've heard absorption was a real problem for a lot of guys on it.

Anyways, if you've never injected before actual cycle doses of test, running 400-500mg of test will give you big gains and relatively mild sides (if any). You don't want to just use every steroid out there just for the sake of doing steroids. Save them for when you're getting diminishing returns from the test.

And yeah I get you've done var, but you'll get way better gains off test if you're looking to build mass.

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What were your test levels like on the gel? I've heard absorption was a real problem for a lot of guys on it.

Anyways, if you've never injected before actual cycle doses of test, running 400-500mg of test will give you big gains and relatively mild sides (if any). You don't want to just use every steroid out there just for the sake of doing steroids. Save them for when you're getting diminishing returns from the test.

And yeah I get you've done var, but you'll get way better gains off test if you're looking to build mass.

So I'd have to find my labs to remember but I believe I was just under the low side of normal when my other pcp suggested I go in trt. I've posted several labs over the last couple years here. I'll try to find them.

Anyway, I think the gel worked fine for me the first 2 years. Doing labs every 6 months I was within the normal range. Except when I just came off my var cycle and my test was like >1500. Lol

But, trt did not have the original desired affect I was hoping for when I decided to go on it. I didn't have any Ed or related issues, but I've always had a problem getting good sleep. They said I had apnea years ago, so I was hoping for some of the benefits of better sleep from trt.

So the gel, at one pump a.day was working, but I did start developing sides. Namely little to no semen, of course atrophy and even occasionally some Ed.

I decided to go to a eurologist and talk to them about this and possible alternatives. Specifically going in clomid regimen instead of, or even along with trt. They pulled labs there and said I was low again. He kinda dismissed the clomid idea and said I could try the cream or injections or even just do two pumps of the gel a day. So I started doing two pumps a day. Did that for about two months but couldn't feel a difference.

After that is when my trainer introduced me to this pa/hormone clinic. Went to him for labs and that's when I decided to move to injections for trt. He wrote me a prescription for it and I can say I can feel a difference. I haven't been back yet for follow up labs. I think that's in 3 weeks or so. So 7 weeks/injections.