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    The doses are so low, I wouldn't bother. I would lower the test to 250-300mg per week, but the 50mg of tren EOD = 50 *3.5 = 175mg of tren per week. And I'm assuming you're using tren ace too? I would start at 100mg eod.

    I'm also not a believer in tren being this "Jekyl and Hyde" type mood altering hormone. If I was any more irritable, it'd be because I didn't get enough sleep at night. Which brings me to the next point. Have something on hand to help you sleep supposing you have some insomnia. I used Benedryl tablets a lot, but there are other choices out there.

    And instead of messing with the caber and adex, I would keep them on hand in case of necessity and instead do 50mg of proviron ed. It'll help prevent sexual side effects and it has a strong afinity to bind to the aromatase enzyme so it'll keep your estrogen level controlled (to a good degree).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    The doses are so low, I wouldn't bother. I would lower the test to 250-300mg per week, but the 50mg of tren EOD = 50 *3.5 = 175mg of tren per week. And I'm assuming you're using tren ace too? I would start at 100mg eod.

    I'm also not a believer in tren being this "Jekyl and Hyde" type mood altering hormone. If I was any more irritable, it'd be because I didn't get enough sleep at night. Which brings me to the next point. Have something on hand to help you sleep supposing you have some insomnia. I used Benedryl tablets a lot, but there are other choices out there.

    And instead of messing with the caber and adex, I would keep them on hand in case of necessity and instead do 50mg of proviron ed. It'll help prevent sexual side effects and it has a strong afinity to bind to the aromatase enzyme so it'll keep your estrogen level controlled (to a good degree).

    Yes I have used tren ace before and will be using it again. I won’t say who set up my cycle/dosages, but let’s just say that he has a good head for gear. I did make gains with those dosages, but the thinning hair came from the mast and was the only side that didn’t reverse itself after coming off the cycle. My objective is not to turn heads, but to see some changes in my physique that I can’t get naturally (ok, with TRT). If I’m tolerating the dosages & my wife hasn’t told me to move out or stop, due to me being an a-hole, I can go higher if my BP stays within reason. Edible pot can knock me out if sleep is an issue.

    I have to use caber. When I was diagnosed with that tumor, my breasts were quite swollen/fat & the Endo was surprised I wasn’t lactating. The pecs lost some of their fat, but the nolvadex is to help prevent any more from being added. The docs were also surprised I wasn’t going blind (the optic nerve is near the pituitary and the first MRI said it was overgrown by over a centimeter). Caber is for life. Neither Caber or Arimidex has given me ED, old age has & viagra “perks me right up”.

    I appreciate your input HK, thanks very much.

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