Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
As I alluded to in the other post, give us some history. What you took, how you reacted and recovered and what you’re proposing.

Cy (as always) highlighted some important factors but even at 800, you’re not Supra physiological from a testosterone count. In the higher end for 41? Absolutely. You’ll need to be smart at your age to keep it that way, if you do indeed cycle. Otherwise TRT because a real option. Best thing I ever did, but my recoveries were putting me in the low 500’s and I’d feel like shit. Still well into the “normal” range but no sex drive, lethargic and foggy. I “cruise” now around 1200 (highest end of normal) and feel great. When I “blast”, my total T hits between 3500-5000 depending on what I run with it but I’m much further down the algorithm than you are (double digit cycles) but my first couple of test only runs were my greatest gains. (Truly free test is a more important number, but more on that later).

You’ll always be chasing it, which is why you should capitalize on it while you can.
Thank you. This is very helpful.

My first cycle was 750mg test Enanthate/ week and started with 20mg Anavar a day. 12 week cycle. Week 7 upped Anavar to 40mg per day. Took .5mg of Arimidex per week. Actually didn't have enough of that so went a number of weeks without any and never had any sides.

Honestly was virtually side free. Tiny amount, I mean like less than a dozen points, of acne on the arms and stomach. I've always been very lean, acne free, very dry skin and extremely low water retention. Whole family is this way.

I was trying to be really strict with my diet until I learned from Seth Feroce that "you have to get a LITTLE chubby if you want to get big". Learned from him that eating carbs is really necessary. My buddy who gave me the first cycle also said I was being way too strict with my diet for wanting to gain mass. I am reading about diet and incorporating what I am learning.

I would like to run 500mg Test E per week (I have Test Cypionate also but I would have to learn half life and dosing before using it. Some have said it's good to alternate). I want to take 20mg Dianabol sublingually before workouts for 4-6 weeks either at the beginning or end of my cycle of 12 weeks total.

I'm conflicted on running an AI or not. My gut says I will not have too many sides, I just want to be careful. The pinned post about first cycle says always run some AI. I'm in the dark here as information conflicts.

My goal is to get up to at least 210 pounds (not saying after just this next cycle), look good, be strong, get much larger legs (I'm lanky), and be able to maintain that weight. I don't mind going on TRT if I have to one day, but I prefer to cycle off and return to my natural levels for as long as possible until I'm older.

I appreciate you guys commenting I'm very new to this. Very open minded to your suggestions.

Finally, my Estrodial test came in and I'm posting it here.