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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Lot of redditors seem to think running SARMS with a "test base like dbol" is a good idea. I can't even.

    OP, none of this is directed at you, I just wanted to comment on the questionable nature of dbol (or any aas not named "testosterone") as a test base. You MIGHT be able to use 4andro (a prohormone, gasp!) as a test base, but why bother with how readily available good test is?
    Thank you I didn’t take it that way. I didn’t mean test base. What I have read is 3 main pillars.

    DHT derived substances (eg Var), test derived substances eg Dbol, and 19NORs eg Tren.

    So what I was actually saying is that some people criticize Dbol/Test cycles since both are test derivatives.

    Opting instead for test plus something from one of the other pillars, or of course test alone.

    Of course I don’t know shit. Learned this from Derek on MPMD seems to know his shit.

    Idk why TF I want to do Dbol but I do. I’m sure all of us have wanted to experiment on ourselves with certain compounds.

    No I would never run an oral only cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcolepticshark View Post
    Thank you I didn’t take it that way. I didn’t mean test base. What I have read is 3 main pillars.

    DHT derived substances (eg Var), test derived substances eg Dbol, and 19NORs eg Tren.

    So what I was actually saying is that some people criticize Dbol/Test cycles since both are test derivatives.

    Opting instead for test plus something from one of the other pillars, or of course test alone.

    Of course I don’t know shit. Learned this from Derek on MPMD seems to know his shit.

    Idk why TF I want to do Dbol but I do. I’m sure all of us have wanted to experiment on ourselves with certain compounds.

    No I would never run an oral only cycle.
    There is nothing inherently wrong with dbol or wanting to run it. It is an awesome compound for what it does. Test and dbol is a bread and butter stack for size. Yes, most of what you get from dbol alone is water and goes away pretty quick. But, the other thing dbol brings is crazy strength, which allows us to push past our normal loads and build muscle as a result of the extra muscle stimulation.

    Note that I have only run dbol on accident. I had some ugl "var" that had to be dbol and it exhibited all the traits I mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    There is nothing inherently wrong with dbol or wanting to run it. It is an awesome compound for what it does. Test and dbol is a bread and butter stack for size. Yes, most of what you get from dbol alone is water and goes away pretty quick. But, the other thing dbol brings is crazy strength, which allows us to push past our normal loads and build muscle as a result of the extra muscle stimulation.

    Note that I have only run dbol on accident. I had some ugl "var" that had to be dbol and it exhibited all the traits I mentioned.
    Curious why you avoided Dbol

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcolepticshark View Post
    Curious why you avoided Dbol
    I bought anavar that was faked with dbol. I wanted var, not dbol. That's pretty much it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    I bought anavar that was faked with dbol. I wanted var, not dbol. That's pretty much it.
    Yeah but what I mean is why have you never wanted to take Dbol? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcolepticshark View Post
    Yeah but what I mean is why have you never wanted to take Dbol? Just curious.
    I carry around a bit of body fat (20'ish% or so) and just don't want the extra estrogen that would bring on top of dbol. It would be silly in my opinion to take a wet compound then dry it out with an AI. Not saying I will never run it, because DAMN that strength, but I got the bloat from it big time. Literally, first dose I was like 'This anavar is crazy!' and then in like 3 days I was like 'ohhhh, there is the marshmallow man' and knew what I had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    I carry around a bit of body fat (20'ish% or so) and just don't want the extra estrogen that would bring on top of dbol. It would be silly in my opinion to take a wet compound then dry it out with an AI. Not saying I will never run it, because DAMN that strength, but I got the bloat from it big time. Literally, first dose I was like 'This anavar is crazy!' and then in like 3 days I was like 'ohhhh, there is the marshmallow man' and knew what I had.
    How is dbol compared to var? Strength wise and other variables. Seems var is much safer with less sides. Was curious. I have quite a bit of dbol on hand that I had planned for a future cycle. But still on the fence about using it given my predisposition to gyno even at low test intake.

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