The results are in:/

[Test Monsterone]

It’s my first go at fertility, so I’m just doing the HCG for now. Side note - you guys know you could buy male fertility tests at the pharmacy? I got one when my girl was getting her ovulation tracker thing. It was like $45. No clue how accurate it is, and I haven’t tried it yet. I’m gonna wait till around 3 months in.

Btw primary hypogonadism is when the testes don’t work and secondary is when not enough LH/FSH is produced. If your LH/FSH was normal or high and the testes were not producing enough testosterone, then it would be a testicular issue/primary hypogonadism. You can take all the HCG in the world, but if testes are non functional, HCG won’t do much.

[Cylon357]

It’s my first go at fertility, so I’m just doing the HCG for now. Side note - you guys know you could buy male fertility tests at the pharmacy? I got one when my girl was getting her ovulation tracker thing. It was like $45. No clue how accurate it is, and I haven’t tried it yet. I’m gonna wait till around 3 months in.

Btw primary hypogonadism is when the testes don’t work and secondary is when not enough LH/FSH is produced. If your LH/FSH was normal or high and the testes were not producing enough testosterone, then it would be a testicular issue/primary hypogonadism. You can take all the HCG in the world, but if testes are non functional, HCG won’t do much.

Yeah, you are right. I got turned around for a minute. My doc started me on clomid as hrt, to see if I was secondary or primary. My numbers moved so secondary it is for me... I saw Samson's numbers didn't move and thought primary, but that would only be the case if LH went up and Test stayed down.

Might still be primary, or secondary, or even perfectly fine, but right now it is hard to tell. Maybe the pituitary just needs a bit more time to fire back up.

[< <Samson> >]

Yeah, you are right. I got turned around for a minute. My doc started me on clomid as hrt, to see if I was secondary or primary. My numbers moved so secondary it is for me... I saw Samson's numbers didn't move and thought primary, but that would only be the case if LH went up and Test stayed down.

Might still be primary, or secondary, or even perfectly fine, but right now it is hard to tell. Maybe the pituitary just needs a bit more time to fire back up.

I’m giving it more time & seem to be doing better with a different brand of Clomid - don’t exactly know how, but whatever works

“Most” likely not knocking up the wife with these numbers - I don’t even know how I feel as decent as I do, considering my numbers

Realistically, I’m giving it at least another two months before I’m gonna get my numbers pulled again. Gotta give it a try & time at least - but, who knows - I pumped down so much gear, it’s amazing I’m still intact as I am


Shrinking definitely sucks - down to my lowest weight in years, 205 flat this am without any bloat

Here’s an edit, so I just don’t keep replying to my own thread.


I just did my yearly exam with my DOT MD - he pointed out that one of my blood pressure meds(Amlodipine) causes male sterility.

So, I just dropped the med for 2-3 days. My blood pressure has been significantly lower after coming of the roids. Yesterday I felt like straight death - dizzy af, then a feeling of “I just got kicked in the chest came - boy, that was intense. I just couldn’t figure out the cause - then I remembered that I dropped the Amlodipine. Look up all info on it - and it states “Do not stop it” - it has to be gradually tapered off

And, yes it drops total test & fucks with your sperm count

It just keeps getting better


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