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    Run 4-600 mgs of test a week. Have arimidex on hand if needed, pull bloods from a private lab at week 4 and take it out to 12 weeks. Long acting esters generally won’t shine until week 4-6. You may or may not need an AI. Definitely have clomid AND nolvadex on hand before you start.

    Finally, know the fucking difference between an and AI and a SERM. Do the reading. Also understand your PCT plan and when you’re going to start (what day after your last injection). Shooting twice a week is just fine.
    You’d be wise to run labs at least once at around week 4 for sure (spend the 125$).

    No, you’re not running a TRT schedule…you’re doing a testosterone cycle. As far as hcg, take it or leave it. Understand it’s role and the role of everything you’re about to put in your body. It’s not rocket surgery…

    I’ve run plenty of test cycles w/out hcg and been just fine, it’s not a make it or break it. Your nuts will shrivel without it, so what? Not nearly as big of a deal as managing your estrogen or potentially crashing it with too much AI or not managing it and getting a lump without anything to attack it.

    Test only is perfect for a first cycle and YES, test will be the base of ANY follow up cycle you run, no matter what else you choose to add.

    Test 12-14 weeks, understanding and having AI, Nolva, Clomid (ancillaries) bloodwork and PCT plan

    Eat, lift, sleep….abstain from booze.


    Carry on

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Run 4-600 mgs of test a week. Have arimidex on hand if needed, pull bloods from a private lab at week 4 and take it out to 12 weeks. Long acting esters generally won’t shine until week 4-6. You may or may not need an AI. Definitely have clomid AND nolvadex on hand before you start.

    Finally, know the fucking difference between an and AI and a SERM. Do the reading. Also understand your PCT plan and when you’re going to start (what day after your last injection). Shooting twice a week is just fine.
    You’d be wise to run labs at least once at around week 4 for sure (spend the 125$).

    No, you’re not running a TRT schedule…you’re doing a testosterone cycle. As far as hcg, take it or leave it. Understand it’s role and the role of everything you’re about to put in your body. It’s not rocket surgery…

    I’ve run plenty of test cycles w/out hcg and been just fine, it’s not a make it or break it. Your nuts will shrivel without it, so what? Not nearly as big of a deal as managing your estrogen or potentially crashing it with too much AI or not managing it and getting a lump without anything to attack it.

    Test only is perfect for a first cycle and YES, test will be the base of ANY follow up cycle you run, no matter what else you choose to add.

    Test 12-14 weeks, understanding and having AI, Nolva, Clomid (ancillaries) bloodwork and PCT plan

    Eat, lift, sleep….abstain from booze.


    Carry on
    ^^^ Listen to S&D's advice here. You don't need to run sarms or anything else with your gear. Your first taste of test-only will make you grow like a weed. Save the other stuff for future cycles down the road.

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    An update on my first cycle.

    Put in my order w a supplier in Dec 2022 i think it was. got my packages delivered in April.

    It was a kind of a mess it got confiscated.

    supplier was good about it shipped out my same order got to me in 2 weeks

    Anyway, been busy, unfocused, but I'm ready to start now. fuckin finally.

    A picture of what I have is attached.

    I'm still trying to figure out some things...the size needles and were to inject.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    We all know i'm green what can i say, we all gotta start somehere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emex View Post
    An update on my first cycle.

    Put in my order w a supplier in Dec 2022 i think it was. got my packages delivered in April.

    It was a kind of a mess it got confiscated.

    supplier was good about it shipped out my same order got to me in 2 weeks

    Anyway, been busy, unfocused, but I'm ready to start now. fuckin finally.

    A picture of what I have is attached.

    I'm still trying to figure out some things...the size needles and were to inject.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    We all know i'm green what can i say, we all gotta start somehere.

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    You probably would want to use 2 different needles every time you shoot. A 19 gauge 1" needle is good to draw with and you probably would want a 1.5" 23 or 25 gauge need to inject in your glutes. You might be able to get away with a 1" 23 or 25 gauge to inject in shoulders, but you need to make sure you get through the dermal layers and in to the muscle.

    Also rotate locations. Don't inject in the same spot more than once a week. It'd be better if you inject in that spot every other week. And expect muscle soreness the first few times you inject in a spot. And make sure you wipe with a cottonball and alcohol the spot you're going to inject in to. Not everybody does this, but I think it's a good idea to take a shower before you pin yourself. The more you can reduce risk of an infection, the better (not that I think it's going to happen).
    Last edited by Honkey_Kong; 05-02-2023 at 10:14 PM.

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    Why two different needles? One to draw and one to inject?

    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    You probably would want to use 2 different needles every time you shoot. A 19 gauge 1" needle is good to draw with and you probably would want a 1.5" 23 or 25 gauge need to inject in your glutes. You might be able to get away with a 1" 23 or 25 gauge to inject in shoulders, but you need to make sure you get through the dermal layers and in to the muscle.

    Also rotate locations. Don't inject in the same spot more than once a week. It'd be better if you inject in that spot every other week. And expect muscle soreness the first few times you inject in a spot. And make sure you wipe with a cottonball and alcohol the spot you're going to inject in to. Not everybody does this, but I think it's a good idea to take a shower before you pin yourself. The more you can reduce risk of an infection, the better (not that I think it's going to happen).
    Why two different needles - one to draw and one to inject? Never needed to do this before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenpump View Post
    Why two different needles - one to draw and one to inject? Never needed to do this before.
    This is one of those things you need to try to fully appreciate. You will see and feel a difference.

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    Yes. Test is too thick to draw with smaller needles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ63 View Post
    Yes. Test is too thick to draw with smaller needles.
    Its not actually, if its preheated a little

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