Test. Flu

[yeahbuddy289]

Yah but just about damn near all raws come from China something like 97% or so the only other place i know is Ukraine and its a shitstorm now im sure theres others also but a could chance your test e could be shit. Whether it is or not better jst to drop the cycle and see what happens. Think you said you’re on trt right self prescribed or dr?

I hope there’s not an issue with my gear… this was from a huge order so I’d be out of a lot of $$$, I wasn’t getting any of the pip obs was describing but I guess I’ll find out if I feel better and then get sick when I start again.

I am not injecting anything until I feel better. I am doing self prescribed trt, I can get it through my doctor extremely easy and did it that way for awhile but it’s just been easier to do it this way, no blood work to worry about.

I’m not feeling weak or shaky anymore, I haven’t had an elevated temperature in a bit, I just have this sore throat that I’ve had for 15 days now. It’s better than it was but still very red and pretty sore. Oddly enough my wife told me yesterday she had a sore throat, and by the time I got home from work she said he entire body was aching. She had a fever and chills all night, felt like crap in the morning, took a nap, woke up cover in sweat but felt much better…. Now she just feels like she’s got a mild cold… I don’t know what the hell is going on but god dammit i want it to stop!!

[almostgone]

Do you have a humidifier? If not, get one. Sleep with that fvuker on, it'll make a night and day difference.

Damn straight, we live in the South and use one as needed in the winter months. Keep that shit moist and moving. Also, 1 CVS 400mg CVS guaifenesin every 4 hours and a big glass or water or big mug of broth.

It does literally feel like you have the flu from what guys have told me but it's not test flu it's just shit raws.

I'm so fucking done with people I can't describe it.
This whole fucking world is going to hell fucking fast.

I'm a batshit motherfucker and everyone knows it but I'm sick of people making excuses and fucking people over.
I'm tired of people making excuses for people making excuses to fuck people over.

Like I said if it's pharma disregard everything I just said but stay away from Chinese testosterone enanthate raws.

I got nothing bad to say about any of the other raws coming out of China

In bold above. Been saying that for years now. I had a bad experience with test e back when I homebrewed. White, waxy powder should never turn into a dark syrup. Even shit that was brewed went tits up. I should've known, dealt with the vendor for several years.
Was looking at his price list, and got an email from the vendor. "Hey bro, you always such good guy, I have a smaller amount of special refined test enanthate. 98.5%+. LMK and I'll fix you up. A-holes...never did make it right. "Disappeared" and then came back about a year later under same old name and everything. Blamed the government before giving him grief....Shit....might have been right after ORD?

Smart move putting on the breaks for now till you start feeling better. A cycle is not even worth it imo if you feel like shit the whole time, no matter the cause.

Not at all worth it. You can literally work yourself into a shitty place, health wise.

[almostgone]

“Something’s going around” - gawd, I hate that statement. But, it feels like it

It most definitely is. Wife and I have been fighting some nasty respiratory bug for almost 2 weeks. Really nasty and muscle pain in back and legs. Foggy headed. I finally got something productive out of a few coughing jags at work.
Not to be graphic, but the crud is nasty colored. ...I'll leave it at that.

Supposed to get a crown repaired tomorrow. If I manage to convince them to work around my coughing. Then I'm headed to my PCP, urgent care or something.

[Cylon357]

Yah but just about damn near all raws come from China something like 97% or so the only other place i know is Ukraine and its a shitstorm now im sure theres others also but a could chance your test e could be shit. Whether it is or not better jst to drop the cycle and see what happens. Think you said you’re on trt right self prescribed or dr?

Which is exactly why I'm giving the PC Test E I got a few weeks ago the side eye. I have plenty of C, but was thinking about that E, maybe I will wait or trade it off or put some in a petri dish and see if anything grows...

[Cylon357]

Which is exactly why I'm giving the PC Test E I got a few weeks ago the side eye. I have plenty of C, but was thinking about that E, maybe I will wait or trade it off or put some in a petri dish and see if anything grows...

Eh nevermind. I'm a dumbass. The PC Test E I have has a manufacture date of February 2022. Almost certainly fine.

You can believe I will still filter that stuff before the first shot. And probably do the petri dish thing, too.

[almostgone]

Eh nevermind. I'm a dumbass. The PC Test E I have has a manufacture date of February 2022. Almost certainly fine.

You can believe I will still filter that stuff before the first shot. And probably do the petri dish thing, too.

Never hurts to refilter. I think the usual culprit with test e is a high acid content.

The test enanthate problem has been going on for decades. It will be quality enanthate, and then ....BAM...dirty enanthate everywhere. Must be decent sized bad batches, because it usually takes a while to get rid of the bad stuff.

[Cylon357]

Never hurts to refilter. I think the usual culprit with test e is a high acid content.

The test enanthate problem has been going on for decades. It will be quality enanthate, and then ....BAM...dirty enanthate everywhere. Must be decent sized bad batches, because it usually takes a while to get rid of the bad stuff.

I filtered the first vial of their test c I used, but the second I started using right out of their vial. So far so good.

[jjsevens]

Is there any tests out there that can check for impurities in the gear that's out there.... Cause I'm thinking I could be getting some junk too... My issue is heart related, shortness of breath, tightness, tired/fatigued etc... Check my other post on the deca issue.

[< <Samson> >]

Is there any tests out there that can check for impurities in the gear that's out there.... Cause I'm thinking I could be getting some junk too... My issue is heart related, shortness of breath, tightness, tired/fatigued etc... Check my other post on the deca issue.

Impossible - we wish tho. . . If you have access to a mass spec maybe




It's kinda why I use gear that someone I personally know has tried first - it works. . . Here's a free vial brah - how u feel? LoL

It sucks my guy went under tho - he was the most pro bathtub brewer - thankfully I don't do much & have a reserve. I'm trying to find a PCP that will prescribe some real dose tho - 200mg a week b straight

[yeahbuddy289]

Would it be safe to say test enanthate from Balkan is safe??? And for the future, is it best to just avoid enanthate all together and use cyp.???

[Cuz]

Would it be safe to say test enanthate from Balkan is safe??? And for the future, is it best to just avoid enanthate all together and use cyp.???

Well, thats what im doing

[Cuz]

Impossible - we wish tho. . . If you have access to a mass spec maybe




It's kinda why I use gear that someone I personally know has tried first - it works. . . Here's a free vial brah - how u feel? LoL

It sucks my guy went under tho - he was the most pro bathtub brewer - thankfully I don't do much & have a reserve. I'm trying to find a PCP that will prescribe some real dose tho - 200mg a week b straight

Man, you must live in a bad location idk my primary care doc, not even my hrt specialist just prescribed me 200mg a week literally on top of what my trt specialist gives me I was like well hell ill take it lol

[< <Samson> >]

Man, you must live in a bad location idk my primary care doc, not even my hrt specialist just prescribed me 200mg a week literally on top of what my trt specialist gives me I was like well hell ill take it lol

Shit yo, sign me up

100mg a week

I hardly ever run anything other than sustanon for my trt - cyp is what I get prescribed now

It’s hard to say “safe” when it comes to illicit UGL made compounds, no matter how fancy they look.

But, personally I’d consider Balkan one of the best. Shit had to cost an arm & a leg. But, I always liked their shit when I used to run overseas gear.

[Cuz]

Shit yo, sign me up

100mg a week

I hardly ever run anything other than sustanon for my trt - cyp is what I get prescribed now

It’s hard to say “safe” when it comes to illicit UGL made compounds, no matter how fancy they look.

But, personally I’d consider Balkan one of the best. Shit had to cost an arm & a leg. But, I always liked their shit when I used to run overseas gear.

Yeah 100mg a week put my levels in the 300s. Thats why i dont recommend urologists although alot of people do and that’s fine. That was what my urologist told me I was fine..just come by my office once a week and well inject you 100mgs. Nah, i self inject 200 minimum now much better with the trt doc

[< <Samson> >]

Yeah 100mg a week put my levels in the 300s. Thats why i dont recommend urologists although alot of people do and that’s fine. That was what my urologist told me I was fine..just come by my office once a week and well inject you 100mgs. Nah, i self inject 200 minimum now much better with the trt doc

My regular PCP Lady put me on it. . . I suppose I’m kinda of interested what 100mg a week of true HG test will put me at

With 125mg of my UGL shit, I came in at almost 1.4k - but, my blood work was done the day after I did my shot

[yeahbuddy289]

Well, thats what im doing

Idk how I missed this over the years but I did some searching and it seems a lot of people avoid enanthate all together… I guess there are issues with pip and apparently bad raws is somewhat common with enanthate. I’m hoping balkan will be ok as I had ordered a ton of it last month lol but maybe after I use all this up it will be nothing but cyp. from then on.

[Cuz]

Idk how I missed this over the years but I did some searching and it seems a lot of people avoid enanthate all together… I guess there are issues with pip and apparently bad raws is somewhat common with enanthate. I’m hoping balkan will be ok as I had ordered a ton of it last month lol but maybe after I use all this up it will be nothing but cyp. from then on.

Good call

[teedoff]

100mg a week prescribed by trt clinic has me at about 400 test levels. I'm still trying to find that sweet spot. 400 is a little low I think so I may go back to 125mg/week. Thankfully my hormone guy has kept me at a prescribed dose of 150.g week. So I have some wiggle room.

[almostgone]

“Something’s going around” - gawd, I hate that statement. But, it feels like it

It most definitely is. Wife and I have been fighting some nasty respiratory bug for almost 2 weeks. Really nasty and muscle pain in back and legs. Foggy headed. I finally got something productive out of a few coughing jags at work.
Not to be graphic, but the crud is nasty colored. ...I'll leave it at that.

Supposed to get a crown repaired tomorrow. If I manage to convince them to work around my coughing. Then I'm headed to my PCP, urgent care or something.

Made it to endodontist and RediMed yesterday.My PCP is off on Fridays and I don't get along with the Dr. that was covering for her yesterday.

Hit endodontist first. 2 cracked crowns, 2 root canals needing retreatment, questionable split tooth on one of the root canals. When I get pissed or don't feel good, I grind my teeth. Needless to say I've been pissed and feeling shitty recently. Guess, I'll upgrade to a polycarbonate mouthpiece when sleeping...more f-in money.

I told the endo I had been sick, but he saw me anyway. He did 3 nerve block injections yesterday around 1230 and they just now are starting to wear off, so some pain relief at least and he doubled dosage of antibiotics and Medrol dose pack.

Went to Urgent Care. Strep throat and pneumonia. X-rays showed one lung crapped up worse than other. Depo-Medrol injection and Augmentin.

On the plus side, I'm off till Friday, so I can rest. ( My normal week off). On the minus side, it's my week off damn it.

[almostgone]

My regular PCP Lady put me on it. . . I suppose I’m kinda of interested what 100mg a week of true HG test will put me at

With 125mg of my UGL shit, I came in at almost 1.4k - but, my blood work was done the day after I did my shot

Definitely need to pull your labs on the morning of the day you injecti ( prior to injection). I've actually done total T labs the day after my injection (for the Dr. I mentioned above that is a dumbass), then pulled total T on a trough day ( for my Dr. that knows her shit), and there was about a 580ng/dL difference. I inject 2x/ week.

[< <Samson> >]

Went to Urgent Care. Strep throat and pneumonia. X-rays showed one lung crapped up worse than other. Depo-Medrol injection and Augmentin.

On the plus side, I'm off till Friday, so I can rest. ( My normal week off). On the minus side, it's my week off damn it.

Oh fuck that! GL, shit

I have never heard of enan specifically being bad - I ran my first cycle with it

I just prefer sustanon, I just feel consistently better

I haven’t even tried my rx cyp yet

[yeahbuddy289]

Oh fuck that! GL, shit

I have never heard of enan specifically being bad - I ran my first cycle with it

I just prefer sustanon, I just feel consistently better

I haven’t even tried my rx cyp yet

Man I can’t believe I’ve been in this game for as long as I have and never heard of all this enanthate crap… learn something new everyday. I just wish I learned it before I ordered 10 vials of it haha. I guess I’ve been lucky with it and can’t really say for sure enanthate has given me any issues but I’ve always used good brands (Balkan, Norma, alpha)

[Cylon357]

Man I can’t believe I’ve been in this game for as long as I have and never heard of all this enanthate crap… learn something new everyday. I just wish I learned it before I ordered 10 vials of it haha. I guess I’ve been lucky with it and can’t really say for sure enanthate has given me any issues but I’ve always used good brands (Balkan, Norma, alpha)

If you want to be safe (paranoid?), then you could filter the E into a sterile vial, then draw your injections from the sterile vial. I don't know if it will help with the contamination that is running around right now, but a .2 micron filter WILL capture all the dangerous bacteria. And if you think injecting oil through a 31g insluin pin is slow, wait till you try pushing it through a .2 micron filter. And don't even ask about a .1...

[yeahbuddy289]

If you want to be safe (paranoid?), then you could filter the E into a sterile vial, then draw your injections from the sterile vial. I don't know if it will help with the contamination that is running around right now, but a .2 micron filter WILL capture all the dangerous bacteria. And if you think injecting oil through a 31g insluin pin is slow, wait till you try pushing it through a .2 micron filter. And don't even ask about a .1...

I do have a few sterile vials and some filters from back when I was using amps. I think my gear is ok though, I don’t get any pip or anything like that. I know it can happen to any manufacturer but out of all of them I do trust balkan the most… seems it’s been the most consistent and reliable for me over the years.

[almostgone]

I would expect your Balkan test e to be good. There are pharma test brands out there... Delatestryl Xyosted, etc that are perfectly fine.

[< <Samson> >]

I would expect your Balkan test e to be good. There are pharma test brands out there... Delatestryl Xyosted, etc that are perfectly fine.

I agree

But, 100%? Anything is possible

Just come off all the crap & see how you feel in a week or 2

I refuse to believe it’s just test E if it’s bad raws - shit, y’all got me scared. I was just getting ready to pull the trigger on a new bathtub brewer. . . But, I think I’ll just stick to my HG & shit I already have - for now

[almostgone]

I agree

But, 100%? Anything is possible

Just come off all the crap & see how you feel in a week or 2

I refuse to believe it’s just test E if it’s bad raws - shit, y’all got me scared. I was just getting ready to pull the trigger on a new bathtub brewer. . . But, I think I’ll just stick to my HG & shit I already have - for now

I would steer clear of test e and go with cyp all day long unless it's pharma test enanthate. The bad batches of test e have been going on for a decade +.
If you get some bad test e, you'll know it for sure.

[< <Samson> >]

I would steer clear of test e and go with cyp all day long unless it's pharma test enanthate. The bad batches of test e have been going on for a decade +.
If you get some bad test e, you'll know it for sure.

Never heard of this & ran every type of test imaginable, enan, cyp, prop, sust & tne

Only time I had flu like symptoms is when I first got onto heavy gear. From what I figured it was the foreign matter in the body - the injection sites got inflamed & so on


What makes e different? Again - anything is possible

[Honkey_Kong]

I agree

But, 100%? Anything is possible

Just come off all the crap & see how you feel in a week or 2

I refuse to believe it’s just test E if it’s bad raws - shit, y’all got me scared. I was just getting ready to pull the trigger on a new bathtub brewer. . . But, I think I’ll just stick to my HG & shit I already have - for now

Yeah if it's bad raws, it's probably present in other esters and hormones. I highly doubt Chinese chem factories are going to invest very much in QC for raws they know are going to the illegal drug market.

[Honkey_Kong]

Never heard of this & ran every type of test imaginable, enan, cyp, prop, sust & tne

Only time I had flu like symptoms is when I first got onto heavy gear. From what I figured it was the foreign matter in the body - the injection sites got inflamed & so on


What makes e different? Again - anything is possible

If it is bad raws, I don't think it's as rampant as people are talking about now. And yeah, up until a month or so ago, I couldn't recall ever hearing anybody talk about this. But I've had issues with injection sites being inflamed. I always chalked that up to maybe the carrier oil or some of the chems to keep it in solution. And if I didn't get used to it, I'd just get a different brand and it'd be fine.

[almostgone]

Never heard of this & ran every type of test imaginable, enan, cyp, prop, sust & tne

Only time I had flu like symptoms is when I first got onto heavy gear. From what I figured it was the foreign matter in the body - the injection sites got inflamed & so on


What makes e different? Again - anything is possible

If it is bad raws, I don't think it's as rampant as people are talking about now. And yeah, up until a month or so ago, I couldn't recall ever hearing anybody talk about this. But I've had issues with injection sites being inflamed. I always chalked that up to maybe the carrier oil or some of the chems to keep it in solution. And if I didn't get used to it, I'd just get a different brand and it'd be fine.

It's been going on for well over a decade. Small batches of test e come up for sale and far as I have been able to find out, there's a high acid content in the test e.

Causes knots, inflammations, severe flu like symptoms ( similar to the bold prop fly symptoms).

Not all test e is bad, but when it's still fresh, good test e looks just like bad test e. A few months later after being stored under excellent conditions, bad test e starts to look like Coca-cola syrup.

That's the bad part about it. Test e isn't consistently bad, but it does occur semi-frequently.

I've only ever had issues with 2 hormones during a good bit of homebrewing:

1) Bold prop, which was consistently debilitating and made people sick.
2) Test enanthate, which is generally good, but enough bad goes around that I avoid the heartache and go with test cyp, or if available, test decanoate.

[yeahbuddy289]

It’s been almost two weeks since I’ve injected. I’m feeling better but I think thats just due to time, or these antibiotics I was given. I really don’t think it was the gear, but it is a crazy coincidence that all this started about two weeks in, but we know what high amounts of gear does to our immune system so maybe I was just extra vulnerable to whatever is going around and my body just struggled to fight it off.

After hearing everyone’s experience and thoughts on test e, I think I’ll switch to cyp in the future. One question I’m hoping someone could answer is why does there seem to be an issue only with enanthate raws and not cyp or prop?

[almostgone]

It’s been almost two weeks since I’ve injected. I’m feeling better but I think thats just due to time, or these antibiotics I was given. I really don’t think it was the gear, but it is a crazy coincidence that all this started about two weeks in, but we know what high amounts of gear does to our immune system so maybe I was just extra vulnerable to whatever is going around and my body just struggled to fight it off.

After hearing everyone’s experience and thoughts on test e, I think I’ll switch to cyp in the future. One question I’m hoping someone could answer is why does there seem to be an issue only with enanthate raws and not cyp or prop?

I was told it's the manufacturing process for test e. Not much of an answer, but that's all I got.

I can say I ve seen labs drop test e because of this issue and I've seen labs completely disappear and rebrand because of this issue.

[almostgone]

Guys, I've been doing this a while and am a member at other forums, so I try to keep up with issues, particularly regarding raws

I'm just sharing what I've run into over that last almost 20 years. I'm not trying to tell anyone what to run or not run, just trying to save y'all some grief. I can promise you I'm not the only one that avoids test e.

Pharma test e is great. Delatestryl, Xyosted, etc. but rest assured shitty test e raws do hit the UGL market periodically.

[Family_guy]

It’s been almost two weeks since I’ve injected. I’m feeling better but I think thats just due to time, or these antibiotics I was given. I really don’t think it was the gear, but it is a crazy coincidence that all this started about two weeks in, but we know what high amounts of gear does to our immune system so maybe I was just extra vulnerable to whatever is going around and my body just struggled to fight it off.

After hearing everyone’s experience and thoughts on test e, I think I’ll switch to cyp in the future. One question I’m hoping someone could answer is why does there seem to be an issue only with enanthate raws and not cyp or prop?

Glad you’re feeling better. Just read this whole thread…spent the last 30 days in county jail so I had some catching up to do lol…anyways this whole thjng with Val and Obs and all this I’m like wtf happened.

[Family_guy]

Btw you have a great physique bro. Nice work!

[Family_guy]

An of course Samson and Cuz looked jacked as fuck too…I’m just skinny fat now lmao but not for long! My whole bodies sore from finally getting back to the gym these past few days after not working out for almost two years but that’s neither here nor there…

[Honkey_Kong]

An of course Samson and Cuz looked jacked as fuck too…I’m just skinny fat now lmao but not for long! My whole bodies sore from finally getting back to the gym these past few days after not working out for almost two years but that’s neither here nor there…

It's those chick panties you're wearing in the avatar that are making you sore.

[Family_guy]

It's those chick panties you're wearing in the avatar that are making you sore.

Lmfao! You’re not far from the truth…as it turns out my wife’s panties weren’t made to “accommodate” a man’s package. Shocking I know

[SampsonandDelilah]

Guys, I've been doing this a while and am a member at other forums, so I try to keep up with issues, particularly regarding raws

I'm just sharing what I've run into over that last almost 20 years. I'm not trying to tell anyone what to run or not run, just trying to save y'all some grief. I can promise you I'm not the only one that avoids test e.

Pharma test e is great. Delatestryl, Xyosted, etc. but rest assured shitty test e raws do hit the UGL market periodically.

You’ve always been gold with me brother, would be silly not to take it all in. IMHO

AG OG