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    @teedoff, is the gyno still an issue? We've been all over the place and I'm not sure any more lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    @teedoff, is the gyno still an issue? We've been all over the place and I'm not sure any more lol!
    I know. I'm sorry. That's sometimes the pitfalls of s forum. Threads get confusing.

    At my current dose, I no longer have sensitivity in my left nipple area. I "think" the lump is smaller, but could still be a small bit left. Hard to tell as the underlying tissue isn't smooth there anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    I know. I'm sorry. That's sometimes the pitfalls of s forum. Threads get confusing.

    At my current dose, I no longer have sensitivity in my left nipple area. I "think" the lump is smaller, but could still be a small bit left. Hard to tell as the underlying tissue isn't smooth there anyway.
    Run your trt for a couple of months then get bloods. We can circle back then and figure out what to do about the gyno. I would say get your numbers good first, but there are definitely options before surgery if it isn't too bad.

    And we're you officially diagnosed with gyno? Sometimes it is hard to say for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Run your trt for a couple of months then get bloods. We can circle back then and figure out what to do about the gyno. I would say get your numbers good first, but there are definitely options before surgery if it isn't too bad.

    And we're you officially diagnosed with gyno? Sometimes it is hard to say for sure.
    My former pcp found the mass and I had a mammogram just for piece of mind. They confirmed it was just gyno.

    I've been at my current dose since Thanksgiving. 100mg week one injection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    My former pcp found the mass and I had a mammogram just for piece of mind. They confirmed it was just gyno.

    I've been at my current dose since Thanksgiving. 100mg week one injection.
    Ok, when you feel like your protocol is settled, take a look at nolvadex. It is a SERM that has been clinically proven as effective in reversing gyno. It doesn't work for every man, but probably most.

    You might also look at adding masteron for a short time at a relatively low dose. This one is going to be tricky, because the combo of low dose mast and 25mg proviron per day tanked my estradiol. But, the combination of low estrogen, higher dht, and mast binding to the estrogen receptors in the breast make for a very inhospitable atmosphere for gyno to survive.

    BTW, the higher dht I mentioned is, in my case, a result of the lowered SHBG I experienced from the mast and proviron combo. Mostly the mast, tbh.

    All that said, just keep that in your back pocket for when you get your trt protocol worked out. You could start some of that now, but I would hold off just a bit longer until you get your doses dialed in and feel good.

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    I mean I feel pretty good now.

    I guess I'm more concerned and confused around the sleep apnea part. Yes I realize apnea and aas aren't the best combinations, but there's a lot of inherent risks with taking these drugs whether trt level or cycling.

    So for now, I'll have my appt with the sleep specialist and see what he says.

    My biggest issue though is my inability to breath normally through my nose at night. That's not apnea. I wanna see about getting that resolved first. Then perhaps my apnea isn't an issue at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    I mean I feel pretty good now.

    I guess I'm more concerned and confused around the sleep apnea part. Yes I realize apnea and aas aren't the best combinations, but there's a lot of inherent risks with taking these drugs whether trt level or cycling.

    So for now, I'll have my appt with the sleep specialist and see what he says.

    My biggest issue though is my inability to breath normally through my nose at night. That's not apnea. I wanna see about getting that resolved first. Then perhaps my apnea isn't an issue at all.
    Brace yourself for disappointment listening to what a sleep specialist says. While difficult to digest while suffering from sleep issues, I believe you realize no amount of weight loss or sinus surgery will remedy your sleeping challenges while experimenting long term with anabolic steroids(/trt). Best advice I know you likely will not take easily is to immediately seek out a CPAP, find a nasal pillow you jive with and commit to using it...as it's required equipment for aging users of performance enhancing drugs (getting old sucks). GL teed, take it or leave it from someone who wasted years and spent a fortune to breath normally at night.

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