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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Ok, this is good information.

    When you design a cycle (or someone gives you one), always ask these questions about each compound:
    Why is it here?
    Does it conflict with any of the others?
    Is there something with less cons than this to use in it's place?
    Can I consolidate compounds (ie can one do the work of two)?
    And then, does all this together look like it will meet my goals?

    And always have a well defined goal.

    When I look at what you are trying to do, and then at what you have in play, there looks to be WAY too much going on.

    You have caber in play to control prolactin because of the NPP, but it looks like you have nuked your prolactin into the dirt. Not good.
    You have a Total T of 2400+ but an estradiol of 29. Said differently, you are 3 times over range on your testosterone, but barely at top of range on your estradiol.

    Both of those conditions are almost certainly because you have pre-emptively deployed both the caber and aromasin. You want to keep those on hand, but only use them if you develop sides. That's OK, these are easy fixes: just stop using them for a couple of weeks, then monitor for sides. You can still use them after that IF you need to, but you don't want to be guessing or using them just because you have them.

    The DHT... you are going to have to ride that one out for a bit. If you wanted to use finasteride, you would need to stop the NPP and wait until it clears (10 days, 14 days to be sure).

    As we discussed earlier, you are using compounds that promote DHT conversion. If you don't want DHT, don't employ those compounds, at least not at those doses.

    You will probably be better off with weekly doses around 400mg test, 200mg NPP, and maybe 100mg Masteron. Those, plus the HCG and HGH and that is it. You can keep everything else on hand, but deploy only as absolutely needed.

    You might fiddle around with the ratios, like if you wanted to run 300 test 300 npp and 100mg mast, that would probably be OK.

    Now, lets look at each of those compounds and ask those questions from earlier.

    The test is there to serve as the base. The NPP for some clean'ish mass without the DHT, and the Mast is there to help alleviate any NPP sides, clean gains, vascularity, control estrogen, and mental feel. HCG is there to maintain some HPTA function (making PCT easier) and the HGH for recovery.

    At least that is where I'm coming from right off the top of my head.

    Now, you may be thinking 'dang, broski you have me taking about 1/3 of the gear I am on now! Where my gains is??'

    Stop that line of thinking. You feel like garbage now, so what you are doing isn't working. I would bet you will make more gains and feel about 10x better (maybe Thor like) if you scale back.

    And as always, did you see my medical license? No? Yeah, me neither because I don't have one. I'm just some rando on the internet.
    Perfect, sound clear to me.

    But i have sad stories with deca. Even when talking about npp.

    Can i switch for tren?

    I have a lot of issues about libido and sexual working.

    I Said tren because i feel well with. But i can add other compound.

    What do you think

    And no worry with medical licence. We are brainstorming. And all That can make me think os good to think about.

    Is the value of progesterone a reason to have an eye on?

    Thanks again for all the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybervtec View Post
    Perfect, sound clear to me.

    But i have sad stories with deca. Even when talking about npp.

    Can i switch for tren?

    I have a lot of issues about libido and sexual working.

    I Said tren because i feel well with. But i can add other compound.

    What do you think

    And no worry with medical licence. We are brainstorming. And all That can make me think os good to think about.

    Is the value of progesterone a reason to have an eye on?

    Thanks again for all the help
    If you don't do well with deca / npp, then I personally would not use it.

    I can't speak to tren... I have stayed away from that one. But if I were you, I would ask those same questions about it. What is it bringing to the table, etc.

    Progesterone is a bit outside my wheel house. Someone else will need to comment on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    If you don't do well with deca / npp, then I personally would not use it.

    I can't speak to tren... I have stayed away from that one. But if I were you, I would ask those same questions about it. What is it bringing to the table, etc.

    Progesterone is a bit outside my wheel house. Someone else will need to comment on that.
    Thanks for the big help.

    I Will wait for someone on here can give some info to.keep doing the brainstorming.

    My doubt Now is what to replace npp.

    Understand a little more shgb and progesterone.

    But, lets wait to see other people point of view about my bw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybervtec View Post
    Thanks for the big help.

    I Will wait for someone on here can give some info to.keep doing the brainstorming.

    My doubt Now is what to replace npp.

    Understand a little more shgb and progesterone.

    But, lets wait to see other people point of view about my bw.

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    What are you not understanding? Wait for what? Do what Cylon said.

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    Cylon wrote This.

    "You will probably be better off with weekly doses around 400mg test, 200mg NPP, and maybe 100mg Masteron . Those, plus the HCG and HGH and that is it. You can keep everything else on hand, but deploy only as absolutely needed.

    You might fiddle around with the ratios, like if you wanted to run 300 test 300 npp and 100mg mast, that would probably be OK."

    But i need to replace the npp.

    Im thinking in tren instead.

    But is there other option?

    What do you think?
    Last edited by cybervtec; 05-03-2023 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybervtec View Post
    Cylon wrote This.

    "You will probably be better off with weekly doses around 400mg test, 200mg NPP, and maybe 100mg Masteron . Those, plus the HCG and HGH and that is it. You can keep everything else on hand, but deploy only as absolutely needed.

    You might fiddle around with the ratios, like if you wanted to run 300 test 300 npp and 100mg mast, that would probably be OK."

    But i need to replace the npp.

    Im thinking in tren instead.

    But is there other option?

    What do you think?
    Honestly, I think you should quit taking steroids. Do your PCT and ride off in to the sunset. They're not for everybody and it sounds like it's too much for you.

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    I would either do what Cylon said OR to be honest I would begin immediately to wean off this entire cycle. Your body is overloaded, confused and working against itself. Save the gear, get back to a healthier steady state in a month or two and then get some sound advice on a more reasonable, synergistic, smaller cycle.

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    I can agree with you if i didnt develop a hypogonadism type 2.

    But off course thinking with an racional mind That should be the better option.

    I Will try to give some rest to the body Will low test.

    And try to reach a plateau.

    But once again thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybervtec View Post
    Cylon wrote This.

    "You will probably be better off with weekly doses around 400mg test, 200mg NPP, and maybe 100mg Masteron . Those, plus the HCG and HGH and that is it. You can keep everything else on hand, but deploy only as absolutely needed.

    You might fiddle around with the ratios, like if you wanted to run 300 test 300 npp and 100mg mast, that would probably be OK."

    But i need to replace the npp.

    Im thinking in tren instead.

    But is there other option?

    What do you think?
    I made that suggestion BEFORE you said that you have problems with nandrolone.

    That is some pretty important information.

    You have choices:

    Drop npp and mast

    Abort cycle and pct

    You are in WAY over your head here. I don't know how you got here, but if you decide you want to cycle again, do it smartly.

    To be honest, I'm starting to agree with some of the others: it might be best if you pct, regroup and recover, then ask yourself if cycling is something you should be doing. Educate yourself in the meantime. That's not an insult, just good advice.

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    I Will recover the baseline values.

    Give a couple of.months

    And study a starting point.

    Thanks for the help

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