Test Cypionate or Enanthate if given the choice?

[almostgone]

Half lives are virtually interchangeable. If it's UGL, I would opt for cyp, the raws tend to be much cleaner. If it's pharma, the difference is negligible

[Zenpump]

Half lives are virtually interchangeable. If it's UGL, I would opt for cyp, the raws tend to be much cleaner. If it's pharma, the difference is negligible

Thanks. I've read Enanthate causes less water retention but...

[almostgone]

Thanks. I've read Enanthate causes less water retention but...

Never noticed a difference between the two. I get more bloat from test suspension, test no ester, and prop, which isn't surprising given they are shorter esters.

[Honkey_Kong]

Thanks. I've read Enanthate causes less water retention but...

The difference between cyp and enanthate is 1 carbon atom. It's not really going to affect the absorption that much. And test is test. I've never noticed a difference in water retention with prop enanthate or cyp. But any water retention would be from the jump in estrogens. One way to get around that would be to take smaller injections more frequently. That would give your SHBG levels a chance to rise and regulate the distribution of hormones. But of course that's all within reason.

But as far as the esters go. The only cyp I get is from my doctor. I know some doctors/clinics give their trt patients enanthate, but I've only gotten cyp from them. And really, I'm considering undecanote since it's become available in the US recently. I'd rather not have to pin myself every week.

There's a general consensus among us in the community that the raws of enanthate coming from China have been kind of dirty lately and so there have been more instances of "test flu" and other illnesses with enanthate now. But that's really got nothing to do with the ester, but rather the purity of the raws the UGLs are using to make us it. So if you can get your hands on both, you might want to just go with Cypionate.

[Zenpump]

The difference between cyp and enanthate is 1 carbon atom. It's not really going to affect the absorption that much. And test is test. I've never noticed a difference in water retention with prop enanthate or cyp. But any water retention would be from the jump in estrogens. One way to get around that would be to take smaller injections more frequently. That would give your SHBG levels a chance to rise and regulate the distribution of hormones. But of course that's all within reason.

But as far as the esters go. The only cyp I get is from my doctor. I know some doctors/clinics give their trt patients enanthate, but I've only gotten cyp from them. And really, I'm considering undecanote since it's become available in the US recently. I'd rather not have to pin myself every week.

There's a general consensus among us in the community that the raws of enanthate coming from China have been kind of dirty lately and so there have been more instances of "test flu" and other illnesses with enanthate now. But that's really got nothing to do with the ester, but rather the purity of the raws the UGLs are using to make us it. So if you can get your hands on both, you might want to just go with Cypionate.

Excellent. Thanks