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[OdinsOtherSon]

Yeah, but tbh EQ made my bp spike, too. It seems like it makes the blood thicker and faster than other compounds. I went to donate once and they turned me away cause my bp was like 177/90. I also got super lethargic on EQ. Once I ended the cycle and donated, I felt much better. I'd much rather do regular test than EQ or deca.

A beta blocker is good to take cause it slows the heart down, but an ARB like losartan/lisinopril/valsartan is going to make the blood vessels more elastic. I'm on 25 mg metropolol and 40 mg lisinopril right now. On gear I bump the lisinopril to 80 mg.

An even better product for vasodilation would be either losartan or telmisartan. Telmisartan has a much longer half-life and neither will induce coughing like lisinopril.

[Test Monsterone]

An even better product for vasodilation would be either losartan or telmisartan. Telmisartan has a much longer half-life and neither will induce coughing like lisinopril.

Actually I misspoke, or mistyped, cause lisinopril is not an ARB, it's an ACE inhibitor. I wasn't aware of the side effects, so thanks for pointing that one out. I was on losartan and valsartan at one point, but for some reason was switched. When I was on valsartan I had to throw the pills out a few times cause I guess whoever tests them found impurities and potential to cause cancer. Maybe that's how I ended up on lisinopril. As far as efficacy, it seems like all ARBs and ACE inhibitors work equally well.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Actually I misspoke, or mistyped, cause lisinopril is not an ARB, it's an ACE inhibitor. I wasn't aware of the side effects, so thanks for pointing that one out. I was on losartan and valsartan at one point, but for some reason was switched. When I was on valsartan I had to throw the pills out a few times cause I guess whoever tests them found impurities and potential to cause cancer. Maybe that's how I ended up on lisinopril. As far as efficacy, it seems like all ARBs and ACE inhibitors work equally well.

I’ve taken metoprolol (beta blocker), lisinopril, losartan, and currently on telmisartan. Lisinopril gave me a terrible cough and also made me feel very similarly to the beta blocker, i.e., fatigued and lethargic which is typical of beta blockers. I took 50mg of losartan, twice daily and it just had too short of a half-life to adequately protect me. Telmesartan continues to exert protective effects 24 hours after administration.

[Test Monsterone]

I’ve taken metoprolol (beta blocker), lisinopril, losartan, and currently on telmisartan. Lisinopril gave me a terrible cough and also made me feel very similarly to the beta blocker, i.e., fatigued and lethargic which is typical of beta blockers. I took 50mg of losartan, twice daily and it just had too short of a half-life to adequately protect me. Telmesartan continues to exert protective effects 24 hours after administration.

Nice - I'll check telmesartan out and see if I can get prescribed. I do hate the lethargy I feel an hour or so after taking my bp meds.

[tbjake34]

I’ve taken metoprolol (beta blocker), lisinopril, losartan, and currently on telmisartan. Lisinopril gave me a terrible cough and also made me feel very similarly to the beta blocker, i.e., fatigued and lethargic which is typical of beta blockers. I took 50mg of losartan, twice daily and it just had too short of a half-life to adequately protect me. Telmesartan continues to exert protective effects 24 hours after administration.

I am just starting propranolol or some shit like that it's a beta blocker. I hope I dont get these sides.

[OdinsOtherSon]

I am just starting propranolol or some shit like that it's a beta blocker. I hope I dont get these sides.

You likely will. That’s how beta blockers work. They down regulate the amount of work your heart can do by blocking the adrenaline receptors. They are a metabolic suppressor, no question. That’s another reason beta’s are used to treat heart arrhythmia, because they slow the heart and allow an opportunity to regain a normal rhythm. That was one of the reasons I was initially put on metoprolol. It is vitally important that if you are taking a beta blocker not to simply stop, the chances of a cardiac incident are greatly increased if you do that. You must work with your physician to slowly ween off the beta and replace with another drug. I personally recommend telmisartan. Telmisartan is an angiotensin II receptor blocker and basically works by allowing the blood vessels to relax (vasodilator). It also has a very long half life, unlike most other widely prescribed hypertension medications. Talk with your doctor about it, my 2¢.

[tbjake34]

You likely will. That’s how beta blockers work. They down regulate the amount of work your heart can do by blocking the adrenaline receptors. They are a metabolic suppressor, no question. That’s another reason beta’s are used to treat heart arrhythmia, because they slow the heart and allow an opportunity to regain a normal rhythm. That was one of the reasons I was initially put on metoprolol. It is vitally important that if you are taking a beta blocker not to simply stop, the chances of a cardiac incident are greatly increased if you do that. You must work with your physician to slowly ween off the beta and replace with another drug. I personally recommend telmisartan. Telmisartan is an angiotensin II receptor blocker and basically works by allowing the blood vessels to relax (vasodilator). It also has a very long half life, unlike most other widely prescribed hypertension medications. Talk with your doctor about it, my 2¢.

yeah man I just started it literally today I took a 10mg tab and it definitely mellowed me out. But I dont want it to block my adrenaline I like having that while I train. I mentioned telamisartan and she's like "oh well I usually give that to people after they try this first" which is fucking stupid and she stomped out of the room and have me this beta blocker bullshit.

[tbjake34]

You likely will. That’s how beta blockers work. They down regulate the amount of work your heart can do by blocking the adrenaline receptors. They are a metabolic suppressor, no question. That’s another reason beta’s are used to treat heart arrhythmia, because they slow the heart and allow an opportunity to regain a normal rhythm. That was one of the reasons I was initially put on metoprolol. It is vitally important that if you are taking a beta blocker not to simply stop, the chances of a cardiac incident are greatly increased if you do that. You must work with your physician to slowly ween off the beta and replace with another drug. I personally recommend telmisartan. Telmisartan is an angiotensin II receptor blocker and basically works by allowing the blood vessels to relax (vasodilator). It also has a very long half life, unlike most other widely prescribed hypertension medications. Talk with your doctor about it, my 2¢.

bro I have been coughing like a bitch all day you think its form that propolol shit? Bro after I took it I had almost like a euphoric feeling. I felt really content just laying there watching tv wtf is this shit

[OdinsOtherSon]

bro I have been coughing like a bitch all day you think its form that propolol shit? Bro after I took it I had almost like a euphoric feeling. I felt really content just laying there watching tv wtf is this shit

Kinda doubt that is causing a cough. It’s a beta blocker. The ACE inhibitors are what are known to induce cough. The beta can make you feel dizzy and/or tired.