IASP (Super Pharma) HGH - lockjaw?

[Cylon357]

So the formula above is slightly different than what I have said in the past, let me elaborate a bit.

Normally we would simplify down to Risk = dose x time. This works well for a lot of things. Testosterone at 500mg per week for 10 weeks is more risky than 200mg per week for 10 weeks. But it doesn't scale well. For example 500mg per week for 10 weeks is 5000mg of test. That same test spread out over, say, 50 weeks carries almost no risk . That would be 100mg for 50 weeks... that is TRT level for a lot of men and doable for life.

So that simple formula doesn't really work as a comparison of the same dose over a given time, just for as a general guideline.

The second part of the equation that is not accounted for is the compound itself. For example, 500mg of test is far less risky than 500mg of tren. This is inherent in most conversations, but is worth noting. I call it out specifically because there are a lot of people that don't study this thing we do as well as we have here.

So, to further simplify, risk is calculated as the DOSE of a given COMPOUND over TIME. It is worth noting that there is likely a threshold for every compound out there where risk simply doesn't apply. 2.5mg of Anavar per day likely poses zero problems for most people. Likewise, 5 or 10mg tren per week poses no serious health risk for most men. No, neither of these bring any significant benefit, they simply illustrate some of the limitations of the simple risk formula.

In addition, there are likely some compounds that carry tremendous risk at any dose. I can't come up with a PED right off the top of my head, but think any chemo-therapy drug. This type of drug falls to the other end of the category on risk and thus also skews the simple formula.

[BrotherTheresa]

So the formula above is slightly different than what I have said in the past, let me elaborate a bit.

Normally we would simplify down to Risk = dose x time. This works well for a lot of things. Testosterone at 500mg per week for 10 weeks is more risky than 200mg per week for 10 weeks. But it doesn't scale well. For example 500mg per week for 10 weeks is 5000mg of test. That same test spread out over, say, 50 weeks carries almost no risk . That would be 100mg for 50 weeks... that is TRT level for a lot of men and doable for life.

So that simple formula doesn't really work as a comparison of the same dose over a given time, just for as a general guideline.

The second part of the equation that is not accounted for is the compound itself. For example, 500mg of test is far less risky than 500mg of tren. This is inherent in most conversations, but is worth noting. I call it out specifically because there are a lot of people that don't study this thing we do as well as we have here.

So, to further simplify, risk is calculated as the DOSE of a given COMPOUND over TIME. It is worth noting that there is likely a threshold for every compound out there where risk simply doesn't apply. 2.5mg of Anavar per day likely poses zero problems for most people. Likewise, 5 or 10mg tren per week poses no serious health risk for most men. No, neither of these bring any significant benefit, they simply illustrate some of the limitations of the simple risk formula.

In addition, there are likely some compounds that carry tremendous risk at any dose. I can't come up with a PED right off the top of my head, but think any chemo-therapy drug. This type of drug falls to the other end of the category on risk and thus also skews the simple formula.

I hear that- i just started my hrt protocol 2 weeks ago as well. I’m interested in optimizing a low dose long term protocol, so I can continually progress and avoid the yo-yo effect. Big thing I’m interested in was reducing recovery times, overall sense of well being and joint health too.

Current hrt protocol at 200mg test-c, 200mg deca ew (split 2x) and lowered the GH to 2iu ed. The test and deca are pharmaceuticals and everything else will be ugl. I also supplement with 10mg cialis ed and will be adding 20mg mk677 ed (before bed). I only have one weeks left worth of MK.

Still nursing my shoulder injury with full rest and 500mcg bpc157/tb500 blend 2x per day. Will keep this protocol for another 2 weeks before I continue my CrossFit symmetry program again to rebuild shoulder strength prior to going back to full workouts again.

Going to keep it at 2iu ed until cts symptoms subside.

Not sure if I should keep this thread here or move this into a blog entry? I’d like to keep updating it.

[BrotherTheresa]

Update

CTS has dropped a lot since dropping to 2iu ed and not using mk677 anymore. It got very intense there for a minute. Symptoms are still there but tolerable at this dose. Still affects my sleep some.

Do the cts symptoms eventually go away or are they pretty much here to stay forever and I’ll never be able to increase the dosage? Goal was to get to 3.3-4iu range but I don’t think I’ll ever go above 2iu ed if symptoms don’t get any better than they are now.

Also, shipped a vial off to Janoshik for dimer and purity testing. Should have results by end of this week.