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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    Johan did you say to supplement with biotin while megadosing...I couldnt find where you said that but I was sure I heard it...
    cant say I remember ever posting that Wouldnt hurt to do it but I dont know if it would have any specific advantage with megadosages of vitamin c. Il look into it.

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    What about chewable C with orange juice ?? I got some, 500 x 500mg tablets last night at Costco, It says that the 500mg is derived from 250mg ascorbic acid and 281mg sodium ascerbate, it also says that it is sweetened with Sorbitol and Splenda. All I can say it's very very addictive, it tastes like candy, so far I had 10g today, 1 g/hr.

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    Johan or the supplement gurus:

    I read in Optimum Sports Nutrition (old version) that Dr. Micheal Colgan believes that high doses of Vitamin C will boost test levels. I experimented this and woke up with fierce morning wood. Have you heard anything about Vitamin C boosting test levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Johan or the supplement gurus:

    I read in Optimum Sports Nutrition (old version) that Dr. Micheal Colgan believes that high doses of Vitamin C will boost test levels. I experimented this and woke up with fierce morning wood. Have you heard anything about Vitamin C boosting test levels?
    I have never seen any study showing a connection betwen vit c and test levels. If you still got that papper can you se if he refered to any abstracts?? It sounds interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    I have never seen any study showing a connection betwen vit c and test levels. If you still got that papper can you se if he refered to any abstracts?? It sounds interesting.
    I have the book at home (at work right now). I check it out. Thanks Johan.

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    I didnt know vit C can burn fat? what kind of fat burning are we talking about? anything noticable? and how long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleMint
    What about chewable C with orange juice ?? I got some, 500 x 500mg tablets last night at Costco, It says that the 500mg is derived from 250mg ascorbic acid and 281mg sodium ascerbate, it also says that it is sweetened with Sorbitol and Splenda. All I can say it's very very addictive, it tastes like candy, so far I had 10g today, 1 g/hr.
    unless you react porly to sweeteners I se no real reason not to keep on chewing them except price

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    I am on day 3, maybe 4 on 10grams of C.. I thought my stomach was going to burn out on this ascorbic acid because I have not had a chance to buy the other kind.. Ihave a 250 pill (1 gram) bottle already of the ascorbic acid so I was using it..

    now it does not seen to be upsetting my stomach as much.. when do you think I will start to notice any pain relief in my joints doing this? anything else I may notice earlier so I know it is workijng at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman
    I am on day 3, maybe 4 on 10grams of C.. I thought my stomach was going to burn out on this ascorbic acid because I have not had a chance to buy the other kind.. Ihave a 250 pill (1 gram) bottle already of the ascorbic acid so I was using it..

    now it does not seen to be upsetting my stomach as much.. when do you think I will start to notice any pain relief in my joints doing this? anything else I may notice earlier so I know it is workijng at all.


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    most people doesnt have a problem with ascorbic acid so go continue with it by all means.

    In a few months the joints should be good I recon. Do you have alot of problems? My knees went from downright horrid to totaly healed in 3 months or so.

    other things you should notice is energy, less prone to catch colds ect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    most people doesnt have a problem with ascorbic acid so go continue with it by all means.

    In a few months the joints should be good I recon. Do you have alot of problems? My knees went from downright horrid to totaly healed in 3 months or so.

    other things you should notice is energy, less prone to catch colds ect.

    I have the worst joint issues it actually had me to the point of not being able to lift for a long time. I am using Deca which has helped some and I am back into the swing of things but this cycle is done in 3-4 weeks and I hoped this VitC would kick in a little during my downtime. I know it is not a cure all but I have tried everything and nothing seems to work and none of the doctors can tell me what is wrong with all the x-rays and blood tests and bloody pain pills they always want to hand out.

    Oldman

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    it surpresses cortisol...dunno if that leads to test levels increasing

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    Since your problems are so bad I would suggest a aggrsive apporach.

    Some day when you are at home all day do this. Down 10 grams of vitamin c imidietly, then take 2 grams every 30 minutes until you get a disturbed stomach, keep on taking until you get dihareea, gas and stomach pain. Write down what dosage made it appear(its like flipping a switch, at say 19 grams there is no problem but 20 BLAM the dihareea arrives). Now the dosage that gave you diareea, lower it with maby 2 grams and stick with that dosage daily.
    Also if you do this, let me know what your tollerance dosage is. Its its very much above 20grams its usualy a sign that something fishy is going on in the body.

    down some glucosamine aswell. Be sure to get all the necesary minerals. Vitamin c will increase absorption of most of them. Im sure your already supplementing with omega 3's??

    I hope vitamin c will be as good for you as it was for me. After a leg workout I could hardly straighten my legs for several days. Forget about walking in stairs. I had to wrap my knees for just about every leg exercise. Now I dont need to wrap and havent feel the slightest pain for several months and I have exceeded my old squat 1rm. It was truly a miracle for me.

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    I will do this tomorrow. I work from my home so I am here all the time anyway.

    I have been taking 3 grams at a time 3-4 times a day but I will take 10 as soon as I get home from my 5am cardio and start it then and let you know.


    I do take Flax and Borage oils as well as CLA


    I will put my laptop in the bathroom and let you know hee


    Thanks I appreciate your insight on this stuff.


    Oldman (the nice one)

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    no problem bro I have bowel tollerance dosage isnt as uncomfterable for you as it usualy is for me. But only a one time thing anyway.

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    Has anyone experienced the inability to sleep while megadosing C? Im already an energetic person and no joke...I havent slept in two days...

    I just took a two hour nap before a final and I aced it. It is now evening and I havent really slept in 48 hrs and Im not tired...Am I weird? I feel perfectly normal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    Has anyone experienced the inability to sleep while megadosing C? Im already an energetic person and no joke...I havent slept in two days...

    I just took a two hour nap before a final and I aced it. It is now evening and I havent really slept in 48 hrs and Im not tired...Am I weird? I feel perfectly normal...

    Sleep is overrated.. You can get more work done if you don't sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman
    Sleep is overrated.. You can get more work done if you don't sleep
    Yeah...I cant say I mind. I just go to class and do my thing during the day then whore the threads at night then do it all again when the sun comes up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    Has anyone experienced the inability to sleep while megadosing C? Im already an energetic person and no joke...I havent slept in two days...

    I just took a two hour nap before a final and I aced it. It is now evening and I havent really slept in 48 hrs and Im not tired...Am I weird? I feel perfectly normal...
    Is this a new developement? Or do you sometimes go without sleep for days anyways? People who are bi polar can go days without sleep especially if your are prone to being manic(ulta high energy and motivation!!). I sleep like poopoo as well. Interested to know if youve always had bad sleep, or its new with the vit. c. I use melatonin, but its not stong enough for me or something, even at 9mg. Im planning on high dosing C , but i may have to back off in the evening or get a better sleep formula.

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    I am on clen right now. Should i take a break from clen and megadose vitamin c or continue clen with vit c? I will be megadosing vit c, clen, diet-tech (ephedra free). Is this all good and safe?

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    Oh yeah - I got my vit C today from Vitamin world. It is powder form vit C crystals. Ran me 22 bucks and the second was half off. 5000mg per teaspon - 173 servings. Cheap as hell. The tabs are going to be way too expensive, they are generally 500 mg for around the same price for only 500 tabs. plus thats chewing a whole shi7load of tabs a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinbrothie
    I am on clen right now. Should i take a break from clen and megadose vitamin c or continue clen with vit c? I will be megadosing vit c, clen, diet-tech (ephedra free). Is this all good and safe?
    Yeah its all safe. I dont se any reason to stop with clen. vit c is not in anyway a clen replacer!!!! It doesnt work in any similar way. It doesnt burn fat in the way clen does either.
    it does however aid in fatloss, it realy did for me and it is a very strong insulin sensitivity booster. So it will work nice togheter with other stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Johan I am about three days into a realy bad cold. I bought a shitload of Sodium Ascorbate a few weeks ago but I havnt used it yet, What dose should I take to kill this muthafuka inside me
    Chug down 10 grams. then take 5 grams every half hour until you get dihareea and disturbed stomach(might get stomach pains). Back of then and then take more vitamin c. Maby 2-3 grams 1,5 hour after that. Keep on taking it unless you get more dihareea. Repete this tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    Chug down 10 grams. then take 5 grams every half hour until you get dihareea and disturbed stomach(might get stomach pains). Back of then and then take more vitamin c. Maby 2-3 grams 1,5 hour after that. Keep on taking it unless you get more dihareea. Repete this tomorrow.
    OK thanks I will start first thing in the morning, this sounds like fun, I just got over a dose of the shits yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridla
    THis stuff is awsome!
    Johan Is the F****** mann!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Energy level is out the roof. Strength outta this world. FAt is melting better than clen anyday the of the week!!!!!!!!!!!
    All U bross gotta try it!!!!!!!!!!!
    15mgs a day and some days 10mgs
    i take atleast 9 grams of vitamin c a day and it does not strip fat off better than clen and i have not noticed any strength gains.

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    When you go with the sodium ascorbate. Run a check on the bloodpressure just to be 100% sure aswell. I have naturaly low bloodpressure thank god. I regulary monitor my bloodpressure anyway(I have one of those automatic wrist bloodpressure meters at home)and I never noticed any difference form the vitamin c.

    Check this site for blood pressure lowering vitamins and minerals
    http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/contdis/bp.html
    They are a bit more conservatite about dosages then I am but a good site anyway. Not realy preserving the legacy of Pauling though.

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    Thanks!! That is a very interesting site. I will need to look over all of those.

    I will let you know how it goes from here on the VitC

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    Johan I am about three days into a realy bad cold. I bought a shitload of Sodium Ascorbate a few weeks ago but I havnt used it yet, What dose should I take to kill this muthafuka inside me
    Last edited by Kale; 12-22-2005 at 07:12 PM.

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    Well the dihareea kicked in after just 20 grams :-)

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    interesting thread..sorry bout the bump but i have only taken 1g today and Im gonna take another gram and see how I feel..oh im extremely sick by the way been throwing up all day and ive slept for 17 hours

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    OK well I dont know how but apart from a snotty nose I feel like a million bucks. I am doing about 15 grams a day now, seems like a lot but with Sodium Ascorbate its actually not a lot volume wise. I am just about to go and have my first workout for a week

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    glad to hear it worked kale

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    Johan whats the recommendation from now on as far as normal everyday intake is concerned

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    well I use 15 grams everyday. Keeps me away from beeing sic and makes my joints feel like a million bucks. I recomend 10-15 grams

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    Well I had to go back to a Capsule type VitC... that power was too gross.. I guess I was putting too much in per drink.. anyway I bought a Capsule type instead of a tablet so I think it released the stuff better because after about 7-8 grams yesterday I spent most of the day in the crapper. It may have been that my diet was off a little because of the silly family get together so I will be trying again today to try to get that magic dose and move forward everyday on it to see how things go.. This has taken me way to long to get going on.

    Oldman

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman
    Well I had to go back to a Capsule type VitC... that power was too gross.. I guess I was putting too much in per drink.. anyway I bought a Capsule type instead of a tablet so I think it released the stuff better because after about 7-8 grams yesterday I spent most of the day in the crapper. It may have been that my diet was off a little because of the silly family get together so I will be trying again today to try to get that magic dose and move forward everyday on it to see how things go.. This has taken me way to long to get going on.

    Oldman
    Thats amazing, the powder I take is almost tasteless, a bit salty maybe, but 1 metric teaspoon equals 5 grams of Vitamin C. I just throw it in my protein shake and you cant taste a thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Thats amazing, the powder I take is almost tasteless, a bit salty maybe, but 1 metric teaspoon equals 5 grams of Vitamin C. I just throw it in my protein shake and you cant taste a thing
    the different powders I tried made the shakes taste more like acid than anything. No biggue I will just stick with the pills I already take a bunch of others during the day so I will throw these in the mix.

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    I've been trying to megadose but having a hard time. I take about 6 grams in the AM and within one hour a back and forth to the shitter. Sorry to be graphic, but it's one of those pissing out of the ass type things. I have to hit the toilet at least every 30 minutes. What the hell is going wrong? No it is not because I'm not pounding enough water because I AM!! I don't want to up the dose to the full 10 grams get because I don't want to shit my intestines out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    well I use 15 grams everyday. Keeps me away from beeing sic and makes my joints feel like a million bucks. I recomend 10-15 grams
    Do you break your doses up or take all at once? I have been taking 8g ED. I take 2g at a time, throughout the day. It looks like I will need to put it up another 2-4g. Thanks Johan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Do you break your doses up or take all at once? I have been taking 8g ED. I take 2g at a time, throughout the day. It looks like I will need to put it up another 2-4g. Thanks Johan.
    I am doing 15g a day as well, I break mine up over three doses, I just thow it in a protien shake.

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    so whats a good loading dosage? I've been taking 2000mg a day is that enough....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_built7
    so whats a good loading dosage? I've been taking 2000mg a day is that enough....?
    Johan recommends 15g a day, thats what I am doing at the moment

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