Outer pecs

[Jason865]

I wonder if Danny agrees with you ?

That was a long time ago, I bet he dosent worry about silly stuff like this now.

Back in 1970's I would bet they did not beleave alot of what we believe today.

[italianplayboy09]

Sure, I believe they have an area for that but not on this thread. This thread is on training the "outer pecs" so I wont turn it into a photo profile of you or myself.

well will you post it in the designated area, thats what i was referring to anyways

[Jason865]

well will you post it in the designated area, thats what i was referring to anyways

Sure, Im on a cut as of Jan 1 so in a few weeks I will post some pics. Not lifting now for 3 months due to a torn shoulder so I'm a bit off but no worries I'm still in ok shape.

Saw your pics, you look like you know what you are doing, good build.

[italianplayboy09]

Sure, Im on a cut as of Jan 1 so in a few weeks I will post some pics. Not lifting now for 3 months due to a torn shoulder so I'm a bit off but no worries I'm still in ok shape.

Saw your pics, you look like you know what you are doing, good build.

thanks man i appreciate it

[Carlos_E]

My physique will speak for itself...example: if i want to improve upper chest im not going to do more flat bench presses and flat flys....i would opt for incline bench, incline flys, incline whatever...if you cant agree on this, than sh1t, youre just an ___

You are correct.

You have 0 education in this area so I wiill just let your silly comments fade away. If by chance you ever find any real scientific data to back up your superstition I will be all ears.

You are wrong. I have a pro trainer and I have trained with Victor Martinez. He said I need more upper chest. What did we train? INCLINE! We did not do flat bench. I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.

[Jason865]

You are wrong. I have a pro trainer and I have trained with Victor Martinez. He said I need more upper chest. What did we train? INCLINE! We did not do flat bench. I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.

My point is about inner and/or outer pecs not upper pecs. As for what a pro BB thinks I know some who believe it and some that dont....so that proves nothing.

[Carlos_E]

My point is about inner and/or outer pecs not upper pecs.

We do several incline movements to target outer and inner chest. Like CD said, my physique speaks for itself.

http://homepage.mac.com/carlos/.Pict...d/DSC00086.JPG
http://homepage.mac.com/carlos/.Pictures/MM.jpg

As for what a pro BB thinks I know some who believe it and some that dont....so that proves nothing.

Sorry that made me laugh. What pros do you know personally? Who believes it and who doesn't? I'd like names please.

[Jason865]

We do several incline movements to target outer and inner chest. Like CD said, my physique speaks for itself.

http://homepage.mac.com/carlos/.Pict...d/DSC00086.JPG
http://homepage.mac.com/carlos/.Pictures/MM.jpg


Sorry that made me laugh. What pros do you know personally? Who believes it and who doesn't? I'd like names please.

Sure Milos Sarcev believes in it, I did business with him for a few years he is a very nice guy and I respect his opinions eventhough I do not agree with him all the time. Ron Love trained at my gym all the time back in the day and he thought muscle shaping was BS. Gunter Schlierkamp was a guy I ran into all the time when I was in the supplement business and he said many times you really can't shape muscles with special exercises.

But again I don't agree or disagree with them because they won some BB shows but there opinions are interesting. I do value the opinions of guys like Mike Boyle and Mel Siff, who I hope to talk to some day if I'm lucky.

[JAYROD]

i'm no expert but i have to agree with carlos and some of the other guys here. where carlos needed to improve his upper chest i needed to improve my lower and i focused on decline and did alot of weighted dips and i saw much improvement in that area so i agree that you can in fact target specific areas of your chest. and carlos's physique does speak for itself and i've been told mine ain't bad either.

[S431M7]

I read this thread from the very begining before everybody gave up on jason865. though I think he some valid point to proof, my few months have experience have achieve more gain from incline movement. And I'm not saying this justifiable fact but speaking of improvement that recognize from incline v. flat.

Good informative thread BTW. I wish no was suspended here.

[nofear]

Suspended for what?

[marsab73]

i guess everything we have ever read about building upper and lower pecs and shaping were all myths......dam it i knew it....i have no phd by any means but am educated from forums and books etc, but when my upper chest was lagging, i began to hit incline bells, incline flyes and after several months i saw a dramatic improvement....

[Carlos_E]

Suspended for what?

Do not ask on the open board. PM an admin.