Just got Suspended from work!!!

[dhriscerr]

You took a customer home and charged her $400 and you see that as "doing her a favor"? She sobered up and decided she got fuked If I was in charge of the casino I would have to do something about that. You should of known how casinos are after working there for a while It's just like if you ask a customer for a tip, that makes the shlt hit the fan. I'm not flaming you, it's just the way shlt is Btw, the casino is only covering their ass, if the woman got injured in a wreck or said that you two "molested" her she could of sued and made the casino look bad. I see this case from the eyes of a business owner and can understand their response.

She had not had a drink the entire night. Video can prove that, and I understand that they are trying to cover there ass, but If we did get into an accident I don't see how they would be liable for it? If I got busted with steroids in my car at work are they liable for that??? Get what im saying? Its not like we asked her, she offered, and she had offered other patrons before she even asked the other dealer. I guess what it comes down to is someone asked for us a favor, we were off work, in our own vehicles and we took on the blunt of the responsibility by ourselves. Not to mention other dealers have taken people home, infact some dealers have got out early to take people home. It sucks mostly because when you do something wrong and you know you did, you accept it but when you truly see what you did as not being wrong it pisses you off when people bend you over without lube!! I wouldn't be stressing either because it truly was a shitty job anyway except I got payments to make and finding a job in a town of 5,000 when your going to school isn't exactly easy.

[goodcents]

I feel for you, it's just the $400 for a ride, wtf? I'm 99.9% sure that's what caused the whole thing in the first place (0.1% would be if you guys didn't fuk her like she was hoping and she got pissed

[dhriscerr]

I didn't cost them any lost money, that same woman has been there every night since.

[dhriscerr]

So its all about the ammount of money, Its not like we set the price or we drove her half way and demanded an outragous ammount like that, she was offering it to other players, one guy was going to do it but he had to work at 8 am and didn't want to stay until 2am. She was actually offering other people 500. You know she wanted to get home because the casino offered her a free room and she wouldn't take it.

[dhriscerr]

Got Fired!

[king6]

Got Fired!

How can you get fired for something that happened off the clock, and off the property?

[1819]

full time.??/ sounds like you need to contact the state board (depends on your state) of employment..

they will start an investigation and in many cases they will have to pay back pay, overtime and won't be able to stop you from getting unemployment at full time compensation..

good luck

if its an indian casino the same rules do not apply. dont know if that's the case.

[dhriscerr]

Its not an idian casino, and I dont know how I can, but anyway Im waiting on the letter they are sending out on monday explaining it all then Im going to take it to a lawyer that has already faught them once on a different case, to see if he thinks its worth a shot. If not, I'll cut my loses and move on.

[1819]

Its not an idian casino, and I dont know how I can, but anyway Im waiting on the letter they are sending out on monday explaining it all then Im going to take it to a lawyer that has already faught them once on a different case, to see if he thinks its worth a shot. If not, I'll cut my loses and move on.

i'm pretty versed in the casino industry. was actually a floor manager for a few years after i retired. money accepted from a customer, even(especially) after hours, was grounds for termination. since tips were split equally many customers had their favorites and would like to tip them personally. i always looked the other way. hell, i took a few myself but it was viewed as withholding tips and that was our policy.

[Anastasia]

I am at work but I am here surfing the AR Lounge. lol

[king6]

I am at work but I am here surfing the AR Lounge. lol

Slacker.

[Anastasia]

Slacker.

I am basically my own boss. Jealous aren't you?

[king6]

I am basically my own boss. Jealous aren't you?

Quite.

[Superhuman]

[/B]

What do you mean by that? I was in the Marine Corps for 4 years, or do you mean any experience with talking to higher up personel???

I was gonna say look into Blackwater, I'm sure you've heard of it. Starting out you can make up to $15,000 a month or $200,000 a year depending on your contract... It's not too far from me so I know a lot of guys who did it and loved it.

[Superhuman]

I feel for you, it's just the $400 for a ride, wtf? I'm 99.9% sure that's what caused the whole thing in the first place (0.1% would be if you guys didn't fuk her like she was hoping and she got pissed

he said the it was a 2-hour drive though, so I can understand. Hell, a drunk guy at the club gave me $400 cash to leave during work an pick him up a sack of Krystals (little burgers like white castle). I told my boss I had to go take care of something important and I'd be back in 15min lol

[1819]

he said the it was a 2-hour drive though, so I can understand. Hell, a drunk guy at the club gave me $400 cash to leave during work an pick him up a sack of Krystals (little burgers like white castle). I told my boss I had to go take care of something important and I'd be back in 15min lol

ahhhhh krystal burgers. one by me in fla. good stuff.

[goodcents]

This is why I left working for others and started my own businesses. Corporate is always fuking with someone . Long days for yourself is still better than moderate days working for someone else

[dhriscerr]

i'm pretty versed in the casino industry. was actually a floor manager for a few years after i retired. money accepted from a customer, even(especially) after hours, was grounds for termination. since tips were split equally many customers had their favorites and would like to tip them personally. i always looked the other way. hell, i took a few myself but it was viewed as withholding tips and that was our policy.

Well accepting money after hours for a tip that is not split between all of the dealers is against the rules. However if you read my post you would have realised that we did not recieve a tip for her winning, we did not recieve a tip because we dealt good cards to her, we did not recieve a tip because she liked us, and we did not recieve a tip for any service we as employee's provided her. WE did however recieve a wage for a service that we provided on our own account.
The definition of a tip is as followed!

TIP: give a tip or gratuity to in return for a service, beyond the compensation agreed on; "Remember to tip the waiter"; "fee the steward"

She had originally offered the ammount of $400 dollars to the other guy so it was not an amount beyond what was aggreed upon.

Definition of WAGE: a rate of payment for work. Work being what we did for 3 hours taking her home.

Also a taxi ride of equal distance would have cost her 228 dollars, 2.50 for the first 1/8 mile and .25 each additional 1/8 mile. Not to mention we took her vehicle home also. On top of which it was a snow storm that had closed down the highways, so if we would have got stuck they would not have sent out a wrecker. She wouldn't have offered the $400 if it wasn't risky, she would have drove home herself, she was sober. You know as well as I do that risk factor adjust income earning potential. Exactly why military gets eminent danger pay in Iraq, and Offshore oil rigging pays more than oil rigging on land, same reason underwater welders get paid more than normal welders. So with the standard flat rate of any taxi with the addition of risk involved taken on behalf of myself and this other guy $400 is not an astranomical price.

They employee handbook states: (This is what the terminated me on) "It is specifially prohibited for any employee to ask a guest for a tip, imply that a guest give a tip, suggest in any way that guest give a tip, or indicate, in any way, that a tip is isufficient.

Providing and/or accepting a loan from a guest, vendor, supervisor, subordinate, or employee is prohibited.

All employees shall avoid acts and situations which are improper, or might give the appearance of impropriety, or might impair their good judgement when acting on behalf of the company. This includes accepting gifts or loans from guest, vendors, and supervisors.

The definition of a GIFT:a donation, a present
Definition of a Donation:a gift, a contrabution
Definition of a Contrabution:Give with others, as to a charity
Definition of Charity:1. the quality of sympathetic understanding: 2. an organisation devoted to the relief of the unfortunate.

So as you can see what we provided was a service, and what we were paid was a WAGE for that service we provided. We were however not Tipped and there is no where in the employee hand book that states we can not recieve a wage for services provided outside of work. Only that you can not recieve a gift, loan or imply that a tip is need, or insuficient.

That is why I have a problem with getting fired. I can back up my statement with Truths and definitions and its clearly in black and white in the employee hand book. Ohwell I guess we will see what the lawyer has to say on Tuesday. Free consult

[king6]

Well accepting money after hours for a tip that is not split between all of the dealers is against the rules. However if you read my post you would have realised that we did not recieve a tip for her winning, we did not recieve a tip because we dealt good cards to her, we did not recieve a tip because she liked us, and we did not recieve a tip for any service we as employee's provided her. WE did however recieve a wage for a service that we provided on our own account.
The definition of a tip is as followed!

TIP: give a tip or gratuity to in return for a service, beyond the compensation agreed on; "Remember to tip the waiter"; "fee the steward"

She had originally offered the ammount of $400 dollars to the other guy so it was not an amount beyond what was aggreed upon.

Definition of WAGE: a rate of payment for work. Work being what we did for 3 hours taking her home.

Also a taxi ride of equal distance would have cost her 228 dollars, 2.50 for the first 1/8 mile and .25 each additional 1/8 mile. Not to mention we took her vehicle home also. On top of which it was a snow storm that had closed down the highways, so if we would have got stuck they would not have sent out a wrecker. She wouldn't have offered the $400 if it wasn't risky, she would have drove home herself, she was sober. You know as well as I do that risk factor adjust income earning potential. Exactly why military gets eminent danger pay in Iraq, and Offshore oil rigging pays more than oil rigging on land, same reason underwater welders get paid more than normal welders. So with the standard flat rate of any taxi with the addition of risk involved taken on behalf of myself and this other guy $400 is not an astranomical price.

They employee handbook states: (This is what the terminated me on) "It is specifially prohibited for any employee to ask a guest for a tip, imply that a guest give a tip, suggest in any way that guest give a tip, or indicate, in any way, that a tip is isufficient.

Providing and/or accepting a loan from a guest, vendor, supervisor, subordinate, or employee is prohibited.

All employees shall avoid acts and situations which are improper, or might give the appearance of impropriety, or might impair their good judgement when acting on behalf of the company. This includes accepting gifts or loans from guest, vendors, and supervisors.

The definition of a GIFT:a donation, a present
Definition of a Donation:a gift, a contrabution
Definition of a Contrabution:Give with others, as to a charity
Definition of Charity:1. the quality of sympathetic understanding: 2. an organisation devoted to the relief of the unfortunate.

So as you can see what we provided was a service, and what we were paid was a WAGE for that service we provided. We were however not Tipped and there is no where in the employee hand book that states we can not recieve a wage for services provided outside of work. Only that you can not recieve a gift, loan or imply that a tip is need, or insuficient.

That is why I have a problem with getting fired. I can back up my statement with Truths and definitions and its clearly in black and white in the employee hand book. Ohwell I guess we will see what the lawyer has to say on Tuesday. Free consult

Good for you, don't let that shit stand. You could walk away with a nice sperations package.

[dhriscerr]

Or everyone might just laugh in my face??? I just have a huge problem when I feel deep down that what I did was justified, and someone says otherwise.

[gixxerboy1]

Good luck. The only problem i see is that she made the deal with the dealer while he was on the clock. Even though you did it off hours the deal was made on.

[dhriscerr]

Yeah but if thats the case, then he should get fired and I shouldn't because he asked me after work. He even said so himself and is going to talk to them monday. He's a paramedic and just does this for fun a few days a week and for extra play money. So he could care less, and the only reason he asked me is because he figured the college kid could use the money.

[dhriscerr]

God my Avy makes me horny as hell!!! I love looking at it and all the hot chicks on that website

[1819]

Well accepting money after hours for a tip that is not split between all of the dealers is against the rules. However if you read my post you would have realised that we did not recieve a tip for her winning, we did not recieve a tip because we dealt good cards to her, we did not recieve a tip because she liked us, and we did not recieve a tip for any service we as employee's provided her. WE did however recieve a wage for a service that we provided on our own account.
The definition of a tip is as followed!

TIP: give a tip or gratuity to in return for a service, beyond the compensation agreed on; "Remember to tip the waiter"; "fee the steward"

She had originally offered the ammount of $400 dollars to the other guy so it was not an amount beyond what was aggreed upon.

Definition of WAGE: a rate of payment for work. Work being what we did for 3 hours taking her home.

Also a taxi ride of equal distance would have cost her 228 dollars, 2.50 for the first 1/8 mile and .25 each additional 1/8 mile. Not to mention we took her vehicle home also. On top of which it was a snow storm that had closed down the highways, so if we would have got stuck they would not have sent out a wrecker. She wouldn't have offered the $400 if it wasn't risky, she would have drove home herself, she was sober. You know as well as I do that risk factor adjust income earning potential. Exactly why military gets eminent danger pay in Iraq, and Offshore oil rigging pays more than oil rigging on land, same reason underwater welders get paid more than normal welders. So with the standard flat rate of any taxi with the addition of risk involved taken on behalf of myself and this other guy $400 is not an astranomical price.

They employee handbook states: (This is what the terminated me on) "It is specifially prohibited for any employee to ask a guest for a tip, imply that a guest give a tip, suggest in any way that guest give a tip, or indicate, in any way, that a tip is isufficient.

Providing and/or accepting a loan from a guest, vendor, supervisor, subordinate, or employee is prohibited.

All employees shall avoid acts and situations which are improper, or might give the appearance of impropriety, or might impair their good judgement when acting on behalf of the company. This includes accepting gifts or loans from guest, vendors, and supervisors.

The definition of a GIFT:a donation, a present
Definition of a Donation:a gift, a contrabution
Definition of a Contrabution:Give with others, as to a charity
Definition of Charity:1. the quality of sympathetic understanding: 2. an organisation devoted to the relief of the unfortunate.

So as you can see what we provided was a service, and what we were paid was a WAGE for that service we provided. We were however not Tipped and there is no where in the employee hand book that states we can not recieve a wage for services provided outside of work. Only that you can not recieve a gift, loan or imply that a tip is need, or insuficient.

That is why I have a problem with getting fired. I can back up my statement with Truths and definitions and its clearly in black and white in the employee hand book. Ohwell I guess we will see what the lawyer has to say on Tuesday. Free consult

yea i understood your post but unfortunatly the people in power always viewed any money given by a customer to an employee as a tip. i guess the reason was to avoid people saying they owed the employee money for mowin the lawn or its their nephew, etc... they didnt care what the reason money was not to change hands. in your situation i feel you are 100% right and should not be in any trouble. the place where i was that wouldnt float since we offered free cabfare for any stranded player. i hope your lawyer does a good job for ya and hope it works out. casino industry is very cut throat and makin a few bucks is what its all about. i always looked the other way in these situations and i hope your superiors do the same.

[dhriscerr]

I wasn't attacking you man, Just trying to defend my actions. If nothing else its a learning experience for me, so F it? I needed a new job anyway