Frontloaded Test E/Tbol cycle

[binder]

I would steer clear of it. If your estrogen isnt out of control i would leave it alone. It's show through observation research that estrogen is essential to growth. You wanna keep it just below the out of control (side effects) side. Water retention is good for bulk. It cushions the joints and protects you during heavy lifts. Worry about it PCT or if you're on a cut cycle.

and about the winny, it's nice injecting to help with dosage and keeping as much out of the liver as possible, but it's painful as hell. you've been forewarned. lol. it'll destroy you as soon as you inject and it's super sore for a couple days. it got rough doing every day injections of that shit. glutes hurt the least though.

[jc95605]

I would steer clear of it. If your estrogen isnt out of control i would leave it alone. It's show through observation research that estrogen is essential to growth. You wanna keep it just below the out of control (side effects) side. Water retention is good for bulk. It cushions the joints and protects you during heavy lifts. Worry about it PCT or if you're on a cut cycle.

and about the winny, it's nice injecting to help with dosage and keeping as much out of the liver as possible, but it's painful as hell. you've been forewarned. lol. it'll destroy you as soon as you inject and it's super sore for a couple days. it got rough doing every day injections of that shit. glutes hurt the least though.

I heard that too about the estrogen. I'm really not wanting to inject the winnie since i keep hearing its painful. If i take the winnie tabs their pretty liver toxic so i'm screwed there. Can't seem to win huh, lol. Thanks for your input.

[binder]

no problem.

fyi: i chose the injection over the liver problems. i hurt but what in life doesn't hurt?

[jc95605]

July 6th
Workout Day 10
Cycle Day 31
Weight 181lbs

Ok as always the changes are in red.

BB Bench: 135lbsx10, 185lbsx10, 205lbsx10, 225lbsx6, 245lbsx3

Pec-Dec Fly: 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx10

*Decline DB (machine): 45lbsx10, 45lbsx10

Hammer Curls: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Alternate Curls: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Cable Curls: 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10

JM Press: 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Lying DB Extension: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (rope attachment): 70lbsx10, 70lbsx10, 70lbsx10

Ok well as you can see I gained another pound. I hit the clen a lil this past weekend, ya know holiday and all, kinda slipped on my diet. But I can tell the clen burned the excess fat i ate. You know i think its awesome but i'm at the point that i can tell exactly how my body is reacting when I induce clen. Awesome!

BB Bench-Anyway I switched back to the barbell. Once upon a time i was able to bench 265lbs. Now maxing my bench isn't the goal of this cycle but i would like to get it to where it was. The max bench seems to be the number that most uneducated ppl go off of so i might as well get that up a lil. From now on I plan on switching from BB to DB every other workout. Today I pushed a lil on the barbell hence the superset of 245lbs, because of that my shoulder hurt a lil, I'll more about that a lil later.

Decline DB machine-As you can see I only did 2 sets of this excercise. After I pushed myself on the BB bench my shoulders hurt. Because of that when I started the decline DB machine they were killing me. It seemed that excercise agervated my shoulders and caused them to hurt so i decided to stop it early to save some for later.

Chest Dips-The next change I made was when i did the chest dips. Like I've said before my shoulders were killing me so i had to wait until the pain went away so i could do the dips. I have to say this time they didn't hurt as much. But I have to admit i don't get it. I don't see how these strength the lower chest. Can anyone comment on their personal experience doing this excercise?

Thats pretty much it for today. Nothing big. The only things that i wanna brag about is that my weight is up another pound and I pushed myself on the BB bench up to 245lbs. Still building and getting bigger, slowly but surely. I'm thinking of doing clen either during my pct or after to cut up. When do you guys think I should do the clen?

[mauler]

i do dips with every chest day to work lower pecs. keep your chin down and lean forward and focus on using your chest more than your tris. my chest feels like its going to explode afterwards. i usually only do 3 sets of 8-12 weighted with 55-65 lbs

[jc95605]

Something's not right, my shoulders are torn up, but not really my chest. It is a lil. When i do them i look down towards and put my legs forward so my body is in the shape of a crescent. I'm thinking maybe my shoulder are just extremely weak. To fault of my own i haven't given them as much attention as I should of so now i'm paying for it. But what you think of the form? Sounds like i'm doing it right?

[mauler]

Something's not right, my shoulders are torn up, but not really my chest. It is a lil. When i do them i look down towards and put my legs forward so my body is in the shape of a crescent. I'm thinking maybe my shoulder are just extremely weak. To fault of my own i haven't given them as much attention as I should of so now i'm paying for it. But what you think of the form? Sounds like i'm doing it right?

idontexactly know what you mean by cresent but yea, chin down, lean forward.
maybe your shoulders are weak, i never notice soreness or pain in my shoulders. only in my chest and tri mostly. just keep doing them,youll be surprised after a while how much youll gain.i sort of remember when i first started doing dips, it was really difficult until you get used to it

[jc95605]

July 7th
Workout Day 11
Cycle Day 32
Weight 181lbs

Finally, Finally I got to work on my damn shoulders. It seems everytime i wanna go work on my shoulders something comes up! Anyway, even tho I had to study for a test i just left and went and hit em. I'm getting kinda pissed off that when i do my chest workout my shoulders keep hurting. That means one of two things. A: My form is wrong, or B: My shoulders are too weak. Like I've said b4 i'm leaning towards option B. I can't even remember what i did last time for shoulders and abs and even if i did its been so long that i can't really call this a advancement more like a new baseline. So today nothing will be marked in red as i'll use this as a new baseline.

DB Military Press: 30lbsx10, 30lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Front Lateral Raise: 20lbsx10, 15lbsx10, 15lbsx10

Smith Machine Shrugs: 50lbsx10, 60lbsx10, 70lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 90lbsx10, 100lbsx10

Hanging Leg Raises: 25, 23,15

Combinaton situp (machine): 22, 22, 22

Ab machine: 25, 25, 25

DB military press was pretty good. Felt a good burn on my shoulders. I liked it and i think i'll contine at that weight maybe even move it all up to 35lbs. For some reason the 35lbs seems to work with pretty much everything for me. Good times.

The Front Lateral Raise sucked. Thats the one that hurt my shoulders. I dunno what specific muscles/parts it works but i think thats definately the weak part. I even had to go down to 15lbs! Well.......thats just unacceptable! In the future i'm gonna be blasting this specific excercise cuz this is obviously the weak point. Can anybody tell me what specific muscles/parts this excercise works?

With the shrugs i was looking for that sweet spot. Guess it was 100lbs, go figure. Anyway now that i know what it is, this will be the new baseline.

The AB workout was pretty good all and all. On the hangine leg raise i just got tired near the end, lil rusty i guess. Don't worry guys, it'll get better. The rest of them were all pretty good. The AB machine/roller was a little easier than i thought it would be. I think next time i'll add a lil weight to em. Also i'm thinking next time i'll take my camera phone and take some pictures of these machines that i'm talking about to give you guys a better idea of what i'm talking about. What you guys think of that?

[binder]

lean forward for more cheston the dips.

and i'm not sure what you mean by "front lateral raise" there are either front shoulder raises or lateral shoulder raises. front work front delt and trap, lateral raise is medial (lateral) head of deltoid with traps.

you said your shoulders hurt. are burnt out or did you injure them? with the weights you are doing, no offense meant, your shoulders are way behind. your bench is good and your other stuff sounds good but your shoulder workout sounds weak. if you have injury then i understand, but if you mean they hurt because they burn out when doing chest then that means your chest is stronger than your shoulders. by your weights, it sounds like your shoulders are laggin your chest so they'll burn out on a chest day faster.

i'm doing 205 on bench, but my overhead press is 65lb db's 4 sets of 10. my shoulders are stronger than my chest, but for benching 245 i would think your shoulders would be stronger. i would try to bring the shoulders back up to speed. make sure you're doing some rear delt workouts too so they arne't oddly shaped. front raise, lat raise then rear delt raise on shoulder days along with overhead press. that will target the full shoulder.

[jc95605]

lean forward for more cheston the dips.

and i'm not sure what you mean by "front lateral raise" there are either front shoulder raises or lateral shoulder raises. front work front delt and trap, lateral raise is medial (lateral) head of deltoid with traps.

you said your shoulders hurt. are burnt out or did you injure them? with the weights you are doing, no offense meant, your shoulders are way behind. your bench is good and your other stuff sounds good but your shoulder workout sounds weak. if you have injury then i understand, but if you mean they hurt because they burn out when doing chest then that means your chest is stronger than your shoulders. by your weights, it sounds like your shoulders are laggin your chest so they'll burn out on a chest day faster.

i'm doing 205 on bench, but my overhead press is 65lb db's 4 sets of 10. my shoulders are stronger than my chest, but for benching 245 i would think your shoulders would be stronger. i would try to bring the shoulders back up to speed. make sure you're doing some rear delt workouts too so they arne't oddly shaped. front raise, lat raise then rear delt raise on shoulder days along with overhead press. that will target the full shoulder.

Hurt as in burnt out. I completely agree about the shoulders, I think their just too weak also. when i was training year ago i didn't know half as much as i know now, meaning that i didn't work out my shoulder that much if at all. i was only concerned with arms and chest cuz thats all ppl see. Isn't that stupid, lol. Anyway its caught up to me now.

What i mean by front shoulder raises is that their the same as a lateral raise i just raise the DB straight forward instead. Thats the excercise that really hurt so thats probably the weakest part. What kind of rear delts excercises are there. I got a lil confused with your posting.

Like I've said b4 i've been thinking about add 300mgs of TriTren w/T3. I'll use the tren to target and blast my chest and shoulders. What you think of that? I just can't seem to decide.

[binder]

well, i'm not sure about the tren. if you're already on a cycle i would probably just stay the course.

there are many rearl delt exercises. there are 3 parts to the deltoid: anterior (front), medial (side) and posterior (rear) heads.

sit on a bench, grab a db in each hand, with your feet on the ground (sitting normal) lean forward so your chest is touching your thighs. grab the weights from the floor and lift them straight out. that will target the rear of your shoulder.

you can do them standing with a cable fly machine too. grab the left cable with your right hand and right cable with your left hand. pull the cables so your hands are together in front of you. then without jerking your body open your arms until they are directly out from your shoulders (you should be standing like a cross or a t) then relax them slowly to bring them back to the front.

you have to hit all 3 heads to have a balanced shoulder. your overhead press is your power exercise for the shoulder and i always do it first. the others are controled exercises used mostly for symmetry. they are best done as a strict movement with no cheating so you'll probably use a lighter weight and slightly higher reps (8-12 range). doing a high weight low rep will overstress the shoulder joint during those movements and very prone to shoulder injury. as your strength progresses you use higher weight, but i would watch ever doing sets that you can only knock out less than 8 reps. that's putting a lot of stress on the joints and ligaments due to leverage.

[jc95605]

Ok I'll keep doing them. Cause right now i think thats where i am.

[AcePowerZ]

Im just wandering are you lifting light because of strength issues or are you really that much of a pansy? Hit them weights and hit them hard I noticed that you were only doing DB military press. Hit the Barbell at about 150 10x if your benching 200 you can handle it trust me.

[jc95605]

Im just wandering are you lifting light because of strength issues or are you really that much of a pansy? Hit them weights and hit them hard I noticed that you were only doing DB military press. Hit the Barbell at about 150 10x if your benching 200 you can handle it trust me.

Lol, it was the first time i did that excercise so basically i was seeing where i was at. I like what you said tho is that for motivation or what? lol. I think i'll treat the military press like the flat bench, meaning that i'll switch from BB to DB every week or so. Furthermore like we've been talking about i'm thinking my shoulders are weak. So the weight isn't gonna be as high as yours because my shoulders seem to be my weak spot.

[AcePowerZ]

Total motivation. I was just thinkning cause i Know my shoulders were and still are my weak point. I continued lifting heavy with them seeings how they can take the punishment. They got strong pretty quick lifting heavy.Then once they got some size from the heavy lifting i toned the weight down a little.

[jc95605]

Total motivation. I was just thinkning cause i Know my shoulders were and still are my weak point. I continued lifting heavy with them seeings how they can take the punishment. They got strong pretty quick lifting heavy.Then once they got some size from the heavy lifting i toned the weight down a little.

Well like i mentioned in the log, my shoulders don't really hurt anymore when i do the chest dips. The DB raises are getting easier too. I'm gonna keep on em! Especially with the BB military press. I like that one.

[binder]

Well like i mentioned in the log, my shoulders don't really hurt anymore when i do the chest dips. The DB raises are getting easier too. I'm gonna keep on em! Especially with the BB military press. I like that one.

are you pressing behind the head or in front?

front will work more of the anterior delt along with upper chest due to the nature of the back being arched slightly. behind the head will be more of a lateral delt. both are great so switch them up between workouts. i feel that i can isolate my shoulders more with a behind the head BB press than a front BB press.

[jc95605]

Sry it took so long but here are some pictures I took Thursday. Thursday was exactly 6wks in. Any constructive feedback is welcome and appreciated.

[jc95605]

July 12th
Cycle Day 37
Workout Day 12
Weight 178.5lbs

*As always the changes are in red. I'm putting the excercises in the exact order that i did them in so you might see a couple of repeats. Also i'm putting the left-arm only excercises in green so you can distinguish them a lil easier.

DB Flat bench: 65lbsx10, 75lbsx10, 85lbsx10, 90lbsx6

Pec-Dec Fly (Machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx10

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Hammer Curls: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 25lbsx10, 25lbsx10

Alternating Curls: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 25lbsx10, 25lbsx10

Forearm Curls: 15lbsx10, 15lbsx15, 15lbsx20, 15lbsx12

Cable Curls: 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10

Skull Crushers (w/curl bar with handles): 35lbsx10, 45lbsx10, 45lbsx10

DB Tricep pullover: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (w/rope attachment): 70lbsx10, 70lbsx10, 70lbsx10

Chest Dips: 10 (I like the way it felt so i added one more for the road)

Weight-Ok first thing is first, weight. As you can see my weight went down a lil bit. Well recently i've been slippin on my diet. So whenever i would eat a "bad" meal i would follow it up with a clen to try and make up for my "mess-up." Well it looks like my diet wasn't that bad because the clen was pretty effective wasn't it. Also I've blamed clen for hindering my gains, but as you can see i moved up in weight on a couple of excercises. I do think i look a lil leaner too. My stomach is more defined so it might actually work. Have a cycle that you add strength no size and loss fat, what you guys think?

DB bench-Pretty happy about this one. As you can see i finally moved up in weight this time to 90lbs. As you can see i knocked out 6 reps on the first try. I was kinda surprised by that because when i sat down i felt pretty tired and didn't think i was gonna lift good today. I think 95lbs is right around the corner.

Chest Dips-Ahh yes the chest dips. These are a pretty popular excercise in my log. There has been alot of ppl that have been telling me that these really work. As of today i've been saying they haven't really been working that well. When i would do them i would kill my shoulders and i would feel my triceps working. I attributed this to incorrect form. I've been getting feedback from some members (thank you again btw) on form and have been making changes. Well guys today i think i hit the sweet spot. Today when i did them i bent my chin down/looking at the floor (as always), then i used my abs to bring my legs kinda of up and forward. Also, i was bending at the waist this time instead of just leaning forward. Well the result i think was alot more of my body bending. This time when i did them it felt like my chest was exploding. Specificlly around the lower and outer chest. Right at set 2, my chest felt like it exploding outward and it was more cut. It actually felt like it was cut as hell. I think now i see what you guys are talking about. I think these are gonna stay around for awhile.

Arms-Ok this one i'm gonna combine and ask for some feedback. I made a thread and asked the best way to strengthen your weaker side. I didn't really get any reponses so i winged it. The stuff in green is what i did for my left arm today. I dropped the weight so i could do more sets. Again, i'm not sure if this is the best way to do it but i gave it a try. Any feedback reguarding this is invited!

Skull crushers-Alot of ppl have been telling me to do these and when i used to do them way back when i didn't think they were that effective. Well that was the case again today. I pushed up and i controlled it down to my neck. Something like a gutine bench, however you spell it. I did it that way because thats the way i felt the most burn with the curl bar last week. Well next time i think i'm gonna adjust my form and try to find the sweet spot like the chest dips.

Also this week i was supposed to get my body fat test with the water dunk tank. Well its a long story but basically i have to wait til monday.

Other-Also I just wanted to note that its almost time to stop the tbol. I have about another 1.5-2wks i'm guesstimating. Also, I still havent decided about the Tren. Right now i'm leaning towards no since it looks like the clen is gonna work pretty good to lean me out and that was the main reason why i was wanting the tren, amongst others. Today i really notice my back breakout with acne. I dunno if this is normal this soon but its not gonna stop my cycle thats for sure. I was thinking about taking some ac****ane after pct. I know during pct i'm gonna break out in acne real bad so i'm expecting that later but not now. In either case i just wanted to note that. I was also thinking about taking finastride after pct as well. Does any body have any experience doing this? Is finastride toxic or can i take it with the ac****ane? Thanks again guys for reading. Hope i hear so input from all of you.

[Obro]

Lookin' good dude. You're so much thicker than in your avvy. Time for a change?

[jc95605]

Lookin' good dude. You're so much thicker than in your avvy. Time for a change?

U think? Where you see it at? I can only tell in my arms and i really haven't gone up that much it weight but their definately bigger. My goal was to have them grow 1.5-1.75". Haven't measured them recently but they were getting bigger last time.

Ya i was thinking about updating the avatar too. But I need a pose. Some of these ones on here have kool poses and i can't think of one!

[personaltrainermark]

Keep it up! I can def. see some progress there.

[Obro]

You have the solution already because you said it. There are heaps of avatars on this forum with great poses. So just copy one that shows you off best. Everything is plagiarism bro. We just add our own touch to something that someone has done before. That's evoloution.

I like the lat spread from the back because that's my best muscle group but here's my favourite that gives the best overall impression You really have to concentrate on poping up the traps and then just lock the fk out of every other muscle group. (might change my avvy). - Changed

Keep it up man. I'm 4 weeks and 3 days into my Test E cycle so I'm only a couple of weeks behind you.

[jc95605]

Just now at 4wks huh. It's about to get fun for you.

[916casanova]

You ever do any total body training? Like 4 compound movements and 2 single joint movements 3X a week? Superset with stability exercises or antagonistic muscle groups? Definately hit some squats and deadlifts.. Help your whole body grow in my opinion..

[jc95605]

July 13th
Workout Day 12
Cycle Day 38
Weight 179lbs

*As always the changes are in red.

BB Military Press: 65lbsx10, 85lbsx10, 95lbsx10

Front Lateral Raise: 20lbsx10, 20lbsx10, 20lbsx10

Smith Machine Shrugs: 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx10, 120lbsx10

Hanging Leg Raises: 25, 25, 25

Combinaton situp (machine): 30lbsx20, 30lbsx20, 30lbsx20

Ab machine: 5lbsx20, 5lbsx20, 5lbsx20

Weight-Since yesterday I haven't taken any clen. I'm gonna attribute that to eating. I mean .5lbs is nothing to talk about. I just wanted to note that i stopped the clen all together. So if it was like the past, my weight should slowly start to move up again.

BB Military Press-Well i've gotten some crap to do these so today i figured what the hell. With this excercise i felt my upper chest and front of my shoulders burning; more so shoulders, it was awesome. When i did the DB version last week i just felt my shoulders. So the BB is more of a combination excercise and the DB more of isolation. In this case i like the BB better. I hit 2 muscles at the same time. I think recently i wrote in my log for the second half of the cycle i really wanna blast my chest and shoulders. Well this excercise definately helps with that.

Front Lateral Raise-As you can see I went up this week. Most notably I wasn't in any pain like last time. My shoulder weren't burning so bad that i had to stop like last time. Matter of fact they didn't feel that exhausted. I think i'll do this set 1, maybe 2 more times b4 i move to 25lbs. Like the BB Military Press this felt to work my upper chest front of the shoulders more. I think i'll keep this one as well.

Shrugs-Well like i said last time 100lbs i started to feel something. So today it would only make sense for me to start there. I was starting to feel a lil tired at the end there but i think i might be able to push it to 130lbs. We'll find out next time.

Abs-The main thing with the abs is that i was able to finish each set. Last time i had to finish at 23 or even 15 reps. Today i was able to knock out all 25. The combination situp machine was the same, just easier today than before. On the Ab machine/roller you can see i even added a 5lbs disc. I definately felt it this time.

[AcePowerZ]

What are you running for PCT? I rechecked the logs and didnt see anything on it in there.

[jc95605]

Well heres what i'm thinking for PCT as of now. I'm gonna start 10 days after last injection.

wk15=.25, .5, .5, .25, .25mgs of adex

wk15-17-50mgs ed of nolva & clomid

wk18=25mgs of nolva & clomid

Sry if thats confusing i tried to break it down for each week so you can see the changes. Still thinking about running clen during pct but i don't wanna lose any strength. I mean the point of pct is to keep most or all of your gains so i might wait til after pct, after my natty test is back. If you guys have feedback about my pct, i'm all ears. My supplies are in the mail now but i still can get more if need be.

[AcePowerZ]

full time pct there bro. Im running the same cycle minus the tbol. and running adex at .25 4 weeks and clomid @ 100/50/50/50.
I will start cycle this monday.

[jc95605]

full time pct there bro. Im running the same cycle minus the tbol. and running adex at .25 4 weeks and clomid @ 100/50/50/50.
I will start cycle this monday.

What you think good? I might run the adex for 2wks, still not sure. I ran adex b4 and it was surprisely strong so thats why i only said a week, but we'll see. I'm definately running the nolva and clomid for 4wks tho.

[QUE?]

nice work i can see the results....keep up the good work. Any new pictures???

[jc95605]

Not yet. I'm thinking next week during wk 8. Also i went to the gym on thursday. I'll post that workout along with the one i'm about to do later today.

[jc95605]

July 17th
Workout 13
Cycle Day 43
Weight 178.5lbs
Wk 7


*As always changes are in red, and left-arm only are in green.

BB Flat bench: 135lbsx10, 185lbsx10, 205lbsx10, 225lbsx8, 245lbsx3

Pec-Dec Fly (Machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx10

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Hammer Curls: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 25lbsx10, 25lbsx10

Alternating Curls: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 25lbsx10, 25lbsx10

Forearm Curls: 20lbsx15, 20lbsx15, 20lbsx15, 20lbsx15

Cable Curls: 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10

Skull Crushers (w/curl bar with handles): 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10


Tricep Pulldown (w/rope attachment): 70lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

Nothing really different to report. I took a lil longer break this time between workouts. Not really my choice but i got a new surround sound receiver and a couple other little things came up so that took a lil bit of time. This time when i was in the gym i noticed the break, so it was obviously took long.

[jc95605]

July 19th
Workout Day 14
Cycle Day 45
Weight 179.5lbs


Ok last time the weight pissed me off but I counted that towards a small breakfast. anyway looks like its going up again. Good! I'll talk more on this later.

*As always the changes are in red.

BB Military Press: 85lbsx10, 95lbsx10, 115lbsx10

Front Lateral Raise: 20lbsx10, 20lbsx10, 20lbsx10

Smith Machine Shrugs: 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx10

Hanging Leg Raises: 25, 25, 25

Combinaton situp (machine): 30lbsx20, 30lbsx20, 30lbsx20

Ab machine: 5lbsx20, 5lbsx20, 5lbsx20

[binder]

what's with the left arm only stuff?

[jc95605]

what's with the left arm only stuff?

I feel my left arm is weaker. Its a lil smaller in size, but not really noticable, except in the gym of course. I asked about this awhile back ago in the log for some suggestions on strengthening that one side. If you have some input I'm all ears. It's mostly noticable on the hammer curls tho.

[binder]

I feel my left arm is weaker. Its a lil smaller in size, but not really noticable, except in the gym of course. I asked about this awhile back ago in the log for some suggestions on strengthening that one side. If you have some input I'm all ears. It's mostly noticable on the hammer curls tho.

i see. what are the measurement differences and are you sure that it's with the bicep part of the upper arm and not the tricep? something to think about. My right arm is little smaller (under 1/4" diff) but when i was balancing them out, i just added 1 set at the end of whatever i was working just to the right. I did that on all the arm exercises (bi and tri) and it helped. i didn't do a whole extra workout. Just 3 sets on the left, 4 sets on the right. It'll slowly get balanced.

[jc95605]

I haven't measured them in awhile but i think its probably about 1/4". Like i said its not that much different, just hardly noticable, probably just to me. Maybe i'll just do another set on the weaker side like you did cuz this extra workout adds a lil too much time to be honest.

Also another note is that i offically ran out of Tbol yesterday. I'm going to continue taking the liver protection to try to clean & strengthen my liver as much as possible b4 i take the nolva during pct since i hear its somewhat harsh. Also i'll continue to take the liver protection throughtout pct and probably a few weeks after for the same reasons. I wanna run accutane during or after pct, so again the liver protection is obviously a requirement there too. As always any constructive feedback is appreciated.

[jc95605]

July 21st

I'm just writing this post as an update mostly about sides.

First off as you can see i didn't get to go to the gym today. Well were about to move so i went looking at houses. I figure if theres one reason to skip the gym it should be for a new home, but thats me. Because of this house hunting i expect a few more times that i have to miss the gym due this. I'm gonna try and minimize it as much as i can, but i can only do so much.

Sides-Ok about 2wks ago i noticed my back getting some acne. I first thought that maybe its because i've been sleeping with my shirt off. Now i'm pretty sure its from the test. Its been getting slowly worse and its starting to look kinda bad. Also i know during pct alot of ppl breakout so thats gonna be a real fun time for me.

Cause i know this is gonna happen i've already decided to take accutane after pct. I know its a pretty harsh compound but i have a lil acne on my face that i can't seem to get rid of so this should definately get rid of it and get rid of all the shit on my back. What you guys think?

Also my aggression has been noticably up. I feel like fighting all the time. I'm thinking about taking some fighting lessons. Like kickboxing maybe i dunno just a thought at this point. I just wanna make sure i fight in a gym and not a bar. Since my test levels are obviously high i've also been wanting to hump everything i see. I mean i've been pretty horny lately. I think maybe i'll be a professional slut. I mean why not? Its about time i've had my fun i think.

[916casanova]

Yeah bro. I broke out pretty bad last time as well. Just got a good ruff scrubber along with a back scrubber and some good soap and let the soap sit for a minute or so before washing it off. Also swimming in pools with chlorine and sun tanning with no lotion clear it up as well.. I didn't have any aggression but I was so damn horny my girl was crawling away from me half the time.. *LOL*