You are what we call a coconut.Originally Posted by gst528i
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You are what we call a coconut.
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not to hijack, but i'm white and my wife is Indian: so my kids are "coconuts" too? that's pretty funny. in what country(ies) they use that term?
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wouldn't they be "half-coconuts"?
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all hoes love the muscles. Seriously who doesn't want to be someone in shape and good looking?
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Most chicks between the age of 18-24...Some of the most amazing girls I have seen in that age group are with 120lb, black girl jeans wearing, non-hair doing, SLOBS, who are in an extremely shitty punk band. That seems to be the new 'cool' thing to do.
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I'd say move in now. If she likes you now, then she'll probably freak when you get bulked back..... for her. If she doesn't respond..well, the Muslim population is fairly large....right???
Either way, it will unfold as it should.
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Yeah, but the problem is that the extremely good looking Muslim girls tend to be the liberal ones. An extremely good looking Muslim girl who is conservative/observant, doesn't date, covers, etc...well, that's not quite that easy to find. Pretty ones? Sure. Extremely hot ones? Very hard to find. But this one girl fits the bill.
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number 1 theres no way you can say shes the one if she doesn't even know you exsist theres no way you would even know her or anything about her to know how she is. So how could you possibly say shes the one. Your way better off with someone that has been in relationships before and has some experience cause if not then eventually they are gunna want to be with others. You have no idea about her attitude or anything. Not to sound bad and cut her up she could be the biggest craziest lying cheating skank out there. Not to sound bad but she could be perfect too. I don't want to offend you there. Once she goes to university your screwed its party time and theres gunna be tons of guys showing her attention and hitting on her all the time. If you think your gunna find that one perfcet one and everything will be perfect and be together forever your setting yourself up to fail. Do girls like muscular guys. HELL YES they do i don't knwo a single one that doesn't. Some might think someone liek ronnie coleman is gross cause he so huge but in general women definitely love a well built guy. If they tell you they dont; care its because your either skinny and got nothing or your fat and they don't wanna hurt your feelings. Also they might so no to a muscular guy because because they don't wanna look shallow. It's hard wired in them from day one 1000s of years ago. a bigger stronger guy is gunna be a better protector for her and the family. You want a 10 you gotta be a 10 so get your ass in gear get yourself to a 10 get confident and get that girl.
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Hey Johnny, peace be unto you. Everything you said is applicable to the vast majority of people living in America. However, my set of circumstances is a bit different. Like I said earlier, we're not supposed to date in the orthodox Muslim community. We just go based on "bio-data." In regards to personality, we go off of what is known about her through people who know her; for example, in this instance my sisters and mother know of her and what her reputation is in the community. From what I have heard, her personality is superb, and my mother has given the green light. I honestly trust my mom's perception of a girl's personality much more than my own, since I am easily blinded by beauty.
The way we do it is based on a semi-arranged manner. It's not 100% arranged where the guy never sees the girl, or they never talk to each other at all, etc. But it is semi-arranged. It would take pages to explain how it works...I used to be a huge skeptic of the system, but after awhile I have learned that it works. I totally understand that it is completely unthinkable to most Americans that a person would agree to marry a person without dating them. I'm not here to debate which system is better. I was simply trying to explain my situation which would help someone understand the reason for why I am asking the question I did.
I understand that most American guys like girls with experience; I don't. It would be anathema to me to marry a girl who has been involved in relationships before. I completely understand that there are benefits to this, but there are also cons from my perspective.
Basically, to answer what you said: I'm not going in 100% blind here. I know a bit about her; I've asked around about her, so has my mother and sisters. We actually think that this method of finding out about a girl is more accurate than dating her. The reason is that girls who are "b***es" tend to be extremely nice to guys they like--until of course marriage or commitment is assured. In other words, the getting to know a person through dating is not exactly *that* accurate. We like to find out how the girl treats her parents (which we think is one of the best indicators), how she treats other girls in the community, her reputation, etc.
It's sort of like buying a car...you could either test drive it for awhile and get a feel for if you like it. Or you could just do research on the internet to see what the car's reputation is. Both approaches have their benefits and cons.
Anyways, like I said, I get that this is very difficult for others here to fathom...I'm not expecting anyone to agree with me here. I'm just saying that this is the way it is for me.
OK cool. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it. Forgive me if I said anything offensive.Do girls like muscular guys. HELL YES they do i don't knwo a single one that doesn't. Some might think someone liek ronnie coleman is gross cause he so huge but in general women definitely love a well built guy. If they tell you they dont; care its because your either skinny and got nothing or your fat and they don't wanna hurt your feelings. Also they might so no to a muscular guy because because they don't wanna look shallow. It's hard wired in them from day one 1000s of years ago. a bigger stronger guy is gunna be a better protector for her and the family. You want a 10 you gotta be a 10 so get your ass in gear get yourself to a 10 get confident and get that girl.
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just to comment on that...
i pretty much understand the whole thing...in the orthodox Jewish community it's the same way.
i agree that for people totally raised in the religious environment it works...
the reason is largely that you have two people who are pretty much on the same page in terms of attitudes about religion, politics, interpersonal relations, modesty, child-rearing.... you name it. So there are unlikely to be any big surprises. The role of the husband and wife are predetermined and agreed upon inherently.
i imagine you have a small number of chances to meet and speak with her once the arrangement is deemed possible by the community, with a chaperone probably? and spend just enough time together to get the sense that she is who she is said to be. and see that she does not have some undocumented hairy upper lip LOL
only I dont understand the important of "flawless" beauty. i mean, everyone wants an attractive mate, but "flawless?" that is so fleeting.
well, you know what they say. make sure you get a good look at her mother first, cause dam sure that's how your wife will look down the road, maybe even after just a few years and one or two kids....
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Yeah, Scibble. That is how it is for us. It is always interesting how similar orthodox Jews and orthodox Muslims are. I was just reading in an article that Jews cannot touch members of the opposite gender either; they gave a Hebrew word for that, but I forgot it. Does this include shaking hands?
I know it's a superficial requirement. However, I consider it as something that will help me cast down my gaze. If I am pleased with what I have, I will be less tempted to cast my gaze on that which is forbidden. Wallahu Aalim.only I dont understand the important of "flawless" beauty. i mean, everyone wants an attractive mate, but "flawless?" that is so fleeting.
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Yes. No shaking hands. There are many many rules involving behavior as such. The word is for 'modesty', referring to both dress and behavior, called 'Znee-oot'. there's another word for no-touch, that i forget myself. A woman in fact would not even hand an object directly into the hand of a man that is not her husband, even though no direct touching is involved, etc
Now I understand.I know it's a superficial requirement. However, I consider it as something that will help me cast down my gaze. If I am pleased with what I have, I will be less tempted to cast my gaze on that which is forbidden. Wallahu Aalim.
Last edited by scibble; 02-05-2009 at 06:00 AM.
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You seem to be in quite the catch 22.
If you hit on her and she responds positively, you wouldn't want her.
If you hit on her and she responds negatively, you'd be screwed.
I was about to suggest that you first "befriend" her on platonic terms and then go in for the kill, but after some reading, I realized that was less than viable given the standards and norms of your social environment.
Hmm . . . how about have your sister make advances upon on her on your behalf to see if she's interested?
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ill act as buffeds' proxy on this one lol.
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She is not Palestine.
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Yeah lol, it is quite the catch-22. However, I have a plan that will place me into contact with her.
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You aren't planning on contacting her electronically or over the phone, are you?
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you could see alot of good research on the car so you buy it and that certain car could be a lemon. Either way we usually research the car and test drive it before we buy.What part of the world are you from. I can see in an older country where this would have a better chance of working forsure. One thing that sucks is she might have a good personality but what if you just don't get along then your married an unhappy forever. In north america the way things are nowadays this definitely wouldn't work. We all go off bio data I would say as one part of it.
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I'm gonna say ZERO.
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lucky you aint a bitch. I don't think HPV affects men.
And daym right you should have gott her tested. Indian women, if it is easy to get in their pants be warned.
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It can, but rarely. Causes genital warts and a risk factor for carcinoma. But it is rarer, like you said.
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ya, it's caused me no problems, don't really care.
She was pretty easy. I remember my friend watched me rail her from my closet. Was kind weird cause he says to me "Can i watch?"
Too bad he did not shut the door. He's 6'7" and 305lbs, not really easy to hide.
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I wouldn't expect a future medical professional to be so fixated along racial lines. Anyone who is educated in biology knows there are almost no genetic differences between the "races." Race is a social construction and is not based in any legitimate science what so ever.
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What are you talking about bro? I was just joking around with him. I'm just saying that although he may have some brown in him, he doesn't fit the stereotypical mold. There's nothing wrong with that. Just saying that he wouldn't completely understand. Didn't mean any offense.
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No I meant, are you required to marry someone within your race? That would seem silly...
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Black girls have bigger butts and like it in the butt.
Apparently you've never watched porn
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No, from the same religion.
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i worked at a banquet hall, primarily for weddings. its not THAT silly. i would say around 70%+ were of the same background (religious/ethnic). i have cred on the subject, i worked there for 5 years.
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coconut can also be used for all brown kids but act white. That;s what buffed guy is trying to tell me. .You rat bastard lol....
it's all good bro.
scibble is indian wife hot? and you better hope she doesn;t find out ur cheating on her lol.. i'm rooting for you though.
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she is hot. she was even more hot. after two kids she is still hot, but in an after-having-two kids kinda way iykwim. i like to....whoops, sorry buffed guy
LMAO...
(i posted a pic in my profile)
Last edited by scibble; 02-04-2009 at 09:12 PM.
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lol yeah, so they wouldn't be half coconuts. They'd be full. Haha. As for what country that is used, it's used in the Motherland, i.e. Pakistan and probably India too.
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it may seem silly, but buffed is living as part of a community and there are societal pressures and expectations on him which will affect his future in every way imaginable - it does not necessarily mean he personally has a problem with marrying outside his race, same religion.
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I'm glad I came across this thread because I have thought about this a lot lately. The conclusion that I have come to is that muscles will definitely turn chicks heads and have them "eye-fcvking" you, if you will. But that does NOT mean that they are into you. I get a lot more girls being 6'3" 240lbs now because of one thing, confidence. I could have probably gotten the same chicks when I was 170lbs a few years ago, just did not have that confidence. muscles=confidence. However, several guys can pull hot chicks without muscles because of the confidence they have in general.
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I have no problem with marrying a girl outside of my race. Prophet Muhammad [s] specifically arranged marriages between black-skinned and white-skinned people, in order to shatter that barrier. So from a religious view, I have no reason to forbid that.
But just biologically, I tend to be attracted to girls of my own race. I think a lot of guys feel this way, while a lot of other guys are 'equal opportunity.' But again, it's just a personal preference, like some guys like blonds.
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Buffed,
Kudos to you bro, you have very thoughtful answers to what a lot of folks thing are superficial and vain questions. At the risk of sounding racist (which I am not), I think you are doing a lot to shatter stereotypes about Muslim people here.
Just my $.02
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please name the first boy Abdi-JiGGaMaN
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Haha, that would be considered complete shirk (idolatry). We're only allowed to name our sons as Abdullah, which is the contraction of Abd-Allah (Slave of God). But otherwise, I'd name him that...really, I would...
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lets see if this is similar. If i said 'efo hasherutim?', what would your response be BuffedGuy?
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Haha, this one isn't even close. In Arabic, you would say: "Ayn dawret al meyah?" to ask where the restrooms are.
You speak Hebrew?
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