ESAD= Eat Shit And DIE!!!!!!Originally Posted by ninesecz
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ESAD= Eat Shit And DIE!!!!!!
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being as he is getting it from a doctor it probably means he has extremely low test in the first place?
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Human Testosterone levels are measured in milligrams of Testosterone per millilitre of blood.
It seems to me, that if you have more blood, then you'll need more Test to achieve the same mg/ml measurement.
Taller people have more blood, so maybe taller people need to shoot more Test.
Or maybe I'm just talking shite, I'm no doctor.
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I really think the cocktail of drugs your taking ninesecz aren't doing you any good at all, you are comming across very edgey and highly strung. The mental health medication + methadone + AAS doesnt sound a very good mix IMHO, is your doctor legit? does your doctor prescribe you all the meds your on?
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Methadone is known to put people in a very bad mood. I would get off that drug if it were me.
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come on guys, we have enough problems with the newbies on here let alone fighting amongst ourselves....
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ok, i have been reading the posts of amounts being used, and i have a question... I am 5'9 and weigh around 240.. i am running about 1000 mg a week, stacking with around 600 mg a week of dec. is that too much... it seems that unless i run that at a minimum, i get no results...other than strength
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Please start your own thread asking this question but NO that is not what it means. Also when you start your post be a good boy and start with you Stats. 5' 9" and 240? Hmmmm and how much of that is fat???
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look to this thread...
Every one is individual ...
look to post 16
200mg/week and his tst level was 2440
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many guys are on 200/week and their tst level is under 1000
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Obviously everyone is different but the weekly amounts that my first cycle consisted of do absolutely nothing for me now.
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Methadone is more addictive than heroin, why would ur doc prescribe u meth?
Last edited by *El Diablo*; 10-11-2009 at 09:24 AM. Reason: spelling
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Because he's a lazy ass who would rather perscibe meds to junkies than practice medicine. There are quite a few docs out there lke this. Methodone is great. Just ask all the homeless people hanging out outside the methodone clinic. Withdrawal from methodone is definitely worse than heroin. NTW methodone combined with benzos will produce a similar high to heroin. It's pretty comon for former heroin junkies to be on methodone and clonopin (sounds like this might be the OP. I think it was said that he is on psych meds, could be benzos) and pretend that they are doing great becuase they get their fix from a doctor instead of on the steets.
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^^^ true, when i stayd in london i realised that there are more meth junkies than heroin ....
Maybe the OP should tell us why the doc prescribes him meth.
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There is only one reason for a doc to perscribe methodone. No need to make to OP further air his dirty laundry if he doesn't choose to.
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No no, i agree, i personally wont see it as "dirty laundry" but more trying to figure out why the fuvk the doc would prescribe meth and nine is not a fool, i just think he knows better.
no offence to the OP....
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You should not be talking crap unless you know what you are talking about!! I have no dirty laundry so do not be trying to read between lines that are not there! I do not take Methadone because I was a herion addict! I have never tried Herion in my life! I take it for pain because it is inexpensive and only has to be taken every -8-12 hours VS. every 3-4 15mg of Methadone (which is equal to a 40mg oxycontin 12 hr pill) is about $0.70!! the same 40mg Oxycontin pill is $9.71 !! that is why I choose to take methadone! Do not talk about things you have only read about!
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43yrs?? I really think you shouldnt be using AAS along side your mental health meds, methadone and what ever else your using, something doesnt seem right with what you say! take your foot of the gas and take it easy
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x2 you should take it easy there cowboy.
That's one mighty cocktail of chemicals / hormones to be putting into your body.
Are you even able to function during the day on all those pills? or do you just veg out on your couch all day super high on methadone and chat online?? lol.
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LOL.. Marcus and Big are Veterans on the board. LOL.. j/k
Jasses Meth, it used to make me feel like a real POS...x2 you should take it easy there cowboy.
That's one mighty cocktail of chemicals / hormones to be putting into your body.
Are you even able to function during the day on all those pills? or do you just veg out on your couch all day super high on methadone and chat online?? lol.
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My bad. I have never heard of methodone being perscribed for pain. I know lots of junkies, and I have first hand experience. I am not talking about anything I've read about. I sincerely appologise for jumping to the wrong conclusion. You should, however, be aware of the stigma that surrounds your pain medication, and know that I will not be the only one who jumps to the same conclusion. Maybe you should include a little more information when you post on a public forum that you use a drug that is almost exclusively used in maintainance programs for opium addicts.
You must have some very serious pain to require a dose of 200 mg a day of oxycontin.
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im thnkin size of person has to affect levels in some way. Larger people have more blood.
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Yes my doc prescribes all the meds and she is a Very well known and respected doctor! Yes Methadone has been known to lower HPTA levels! I am on the Methadone because I have a bad back and the amount of pain medication I was taking 200mg of Oxycodone a day was costong me close to $300 a month (no insurance) for the equivilent dose of methadone it costs me $17 a month! and if you are careful with the drugs and take only what you are prescribed, IMHO none are any worse than the other! Methadone has harder withdrawal symptoms if you were to go cold turkey VS. say Percoset or Vicodin but if you are not a junkie, then there is nit much difference! I have been on the same dose for almost 43 years simply because I do not want to up the dose unless I really need to!
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wait, what?
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43 years of meth...
dammit man, how old are u.
have u tried the suboxone route?
they are using it for pain also?
man, u dont want to be on metha done for long..
and isnt this the same doc that misread ur results and u got jaundice(spelling)?
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also, about the cost.
there are programs that provide u the oxy 80's for free on a monthly basis.
have u looked into any of thoses?
i know purdue offers it.
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My Bad!!! 3 years hit the other button by mistake Sorry!! There is no getting Oxycontin free where I live! No Suboxone Does not work at all for pain and it is 3-5X more expensive than any opiate! All Suboxone does is take away the withdrawal symptoms and a very few doctors even prescribe it! A friend of mine takes suboxone and I have actually tried it and makes me feel fine, but the pain without the meds is almost unbearable! It took him alnmost 3 months to et prescribed the medicine! Small towns are hard to get good healthcare!
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I figured it was a typo lol.
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Where do you get your information?
Suboxone is "25-40x" stronger then morphine at relieving pain. In the aspect of pain relief, suboxone is one of the most powerful meds available.
Suboxone does not create the euphoria that takes peoples awareness off the pain, and because of this people THINK its not good at what it does. Pain is very emotionally subjective. When you get shot, you're too shocked to feel pain. When you're on morphine, you're too high to feel pain.(till you grow a tolerance) But biologically speaking, suboxone does a much better job blocking nerve messages up the spine.
If you didn't respond to it, thats because all opiates are underprescribed (dosage wise). But if you take 400mg of morphine, youd prob live. If you took that much of subox your heart would stop.
If you're getting tired of pain look into some ethnobotanicals like Kratom. Keep it by your side it will become a good friend and it works just as good as most opiates if not better.
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This is the problem with giving out medical advice online... It's VERY dangerous. (I'm not trying to call you out here Bo... I'm just thinking out-loud.)
Nine is on a LOT of medication. Suboxone is a very effective drug you're right... but I'm pretty sure Nine is taking tranquilizers... as I'm sure you know from your psych degree, Suboxone + tranquilizers = death. (very severe overdose).
If one elects to take suboxone they should rid themselves of all other "pain" related meds. (don't want to mess with buprenorphine!!!!) haha.
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No absolutely I understand.
I just hate how bup gets such a bad wrap. If anyone knows anything about bup and sees you with a bottle first thing they'll prob think is you're a drug addict.
And then you have masses of people who don't like it cause its not a "happy pill" & won't give you any sort of euphoria. But when you look at the momentum of pharmaceutical technology, creating drugs that are stronger at relieving pain, and weaker at creating addiction, is something I consider a VERY positive change.
So it just irritates me a bit when people overlook that fact.
But I hear yah loud and clear
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need to close this one fellas
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yeah me too, but i know some of u guys are real old....
j/k
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A friend once told me something and it made a lot sense to me. He said, if your taking gear and your getting a side effect , then you take something to combat that side effect which in return is giving you another side effect, ect,ect....don't you think somethings wrong?
Now the OP is taking steroids to train harder , which is hurting his back so he takes meth, but the meth is negating some of the effects of the gear so he takes more gear?? Do we see a pattern here....maybe some time off from everything would do some good....sounds like a fuc'n train wreck to me, your just poisoning yourself.
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^^^agreed.
also, ninez, isnt this the same doc that misread ur results and u developed juandice(spelling)?
if so bro, u should try to see another doc, atleast for a second overview of everything ur taking..
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LOLLL.
M.S. I love how you called it like 2 - 3 days ago.
I knew ninesecz was a liar, but these testimonies are just starting to get ridiculous. I haven't raised this flag in ages... but this is a suitable situation, lol
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^^^ im no even gonna ask MS
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Okay... im not gonna ask why,, lol
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