Best Gear For an Athlete

[workoutfreak078]

Ok. So there is no magic age to start taking steroids. Lets all start recommending high school kids start taking them. Hey they might go pro one day and they will already have a head start. Do you see how stupid this line of thinking is? Would you advise a high school kid to take AAS? Why not? There is no magic age remember? So by your logic if you can get your hands on it, take it.


I don't know how old you are, but I'm gonna guess you are pretty young and you are trying to make a case for taking AAS at a young age. (I know, you are going to come back saying you are a 40 year old personal trainer, blah, blah, blah)


Its people like you giving advice to these kids that makes us all look bad.

Listen, I agree with alpmaster here. You don't seem to understand for some odd reason. He is not recommending high school kids to start taking steroids. He is trying to tell you that there are certain circumstances where age does not matter as much. Sure, if the OP was 16 years old, this would make all of the difference in the world, but he's not. He is pretty much a fully grown man, with stats that most likely blow yours out of the water.

alpmaster is also not saying that if high school kids start taking gear, they will become better at sports. Stop exaggerating everything. It has already been said numerous times, by the OP and everyone else, that the OP is already very good at this sport, and is pretty much going to go pro so he needs an extra edge (the same edge everyone else he is competing with most likely has). The OP has cycled before, and apparently he is very knowledgeable in the field of nutrition and working out.

It is not like he is telling some 14 year old kid on a division 8 football team to start juicing. The OP needs help, and alpmaster is giving him the help he needs, while you, on the other hand, are giving him information that is the complete opposite of what he wants to know.

[alpmaster]

Ok. So there is no magic age to start taking steroids. Lets all start recommending high school kids start taking them. Hey they might go pro one day and they will already have a head start. Do you see how stupid this line of thinking is? Would you advise a high school kid to take AAS? Why not? There is no magic age remember? So by your logic if you can get your hands on it, take it.


I don't know how old you are, but I'm gonna guess you are pretty young and you are trying to make a case for taking AAS at a young age. (I know, you are going to come back saying you are a 40 year old personal trainer, blah, blah, blah)


Its people like you giving advice to these kids that makes us all look bad.

I don't need to disclose my age, and neither do you. However, I'm sure people reading mine and your posts can deduce who is more knowledgeable on this subject. While I supply logic and reasoning to using these drugs, you rely on cookie-cutter advice, and then blow everything out of proportion and exaggerate what I "claim" as an attack on my intellect.

Nice try champ.

[nilrac]

Bull. Shit.

First of all, let's assume he's "not fully developed" (whatever that means), still, why would he not use in an athletic environment where it is optimal and somewhat necessary to use? Oh, let me guess, because for some reason he can recover his HPTA at 25, but not at 22.

You guys who talk like this just speak in rhetoric. You copy and paste what you've heard forum members say (who's 'knowledge' is often based off of post count) without truthfully knowing the real world logics of what you're attempting to advise. AAS hold their own advantages and disadvantages of use and abuse, and it is up to the individual to accept or reject them in context of their situation AFTER UNDERSTANDING these positive and negative consequences. This board often uses fear, rather than teaching, to stray away people from using the drugs that all of you are fine with using yourselves.

I'd have to agree. Previously I listened to more "experienced" forum members regarding age. I've been involved in threads like this before. However, from meeting people in the real world, I think everybody is different and if you want to take your chances, take them. I have a very good friend who is an ex-competitive strongman, he started test at 22 years old. Due to his sport he took alot of gear obviously!

Now he is off, retired, married with a beautiful son. His HPTA, by his own admission, is fine. Just one example...

I think in this particular case, the OP is in the right place. He has already juiced, he already has excellent stats. He plans to go pro... 10Lbs of lean muscle naturally is a very difficult proposition. 10Lbs on gear would suit his professional goals much better imho. And as long as he is sensible with compounds, mgs, time on and off then there is a good chance his HPTA will be fine further down the road. But it's a risk only he can choose to make.

Just my .02

[chuckt12345]

You guys who talk like this just speak in rhetoric. You copy and paste what you've heard forum members say (who's 'knowledge' is often based off of post count) without truthfully knowing the real world logics of what you're attempting to advise. AAS hold their own advantages and disadvantages of use and abuse, and it is up to the individual to accept or reject them in context of their situation AFTER UNDERSTANDING these positive and negative consequences. This board often uses fear, rather than teaching, to stray away people from using the drugs that all of you are fine with using yourselves.[/QUOTE]

sadly i agee with this paragraph as well.
we can advise what is best for the average person to do and hope they take that advise but we shouldnt tell them there fukn idiots because weve read about it on a steroids board. Guess what AAS is prescribed to teenagers as well.

[BJJ]

You guys who talk like this just speak in rhetoric. You copy and paste what you've heard forum members say (who's 'knowledge' is often based off of post count) without truthfully knowing the real world logics of what you're attempting to advise. AAS hold their own advantages and disadvantages of use and abuse, and it is up to the individual to accept or reject them in context of their situation AFTER UNDERSTANDING these positive and negative consequences. This board often uses fear, rather than teaching, to stray away people from using the drugs that all of you are fine with using yourselves.

sadly i agee with this paragraph as well.
we can advise what is best for the average person to do and hope they take that advise but we shouldnt tell them there fukn idiots because weve read about it on a steroids board. Guess what AAS is prescribed to teenagers as well

There is a reason for that, surely not to get pro.

[Narkissos]

This board often uses fear, rather than teaching, to stray away people from using the drugs that all of you are fine with using yourselves.

Agreed 100%

[elpropiotorvic]

^^ agreed he is already going pro...not at that level... It's not that easy

[elpropiotorvic]

If he starts prop var tbol he won't fail IMO

[lotsoftime]

Some institutions test for PCT drugs also. Just in case...