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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    I think virus' are a whole degree of difficulty higher than infections and cancers. Just to illustrate my thought process, let me ask a similar question (although not as critical...)

    "Why, after knowing about the cold virus for over a generation, have we found no cure for the common cold?"

    Same with herpes..... still no cure.
    Same with pretty much ANY virus.

    Our technology just isn't there yet. We are at the dawn of a genetic revolution. Virus' work at a genetic (dna) level, which is much smaller and significantly more complex than at a cellular level, which is where bacteria & infections thrive.
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    If you ask me and I am far from a scientist, I still find it suspect that we have had millions/billions of dollars put into AIDS research and still to this day don't even have a accurate test that can detect the virus.

    Is I possible that it's that far over our heads? Sure, I guess. It's just my opinion.
    i also find it weird that we know virtually NOTHING about HIV/AIDS after all the money that has been thrown into it's research..... at the same time tho..... if we did know anything about virus' - we'd have found a posotive solution for herpes. I mean..... it's not a life threatening virus..... it's not "thinning the herd" so to speak..... so then why havn't we found a cure? I really just think virus' are so much more complex.....

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    with computer programming (remember DNA is code, just like programming), quite often the cure is back to a "pre-infected" state. For humans, this would mean having a clean copy of our own personal DNA, and then somehow eliminating those cells in your body that have different DNA.

    But I don't have a friggin clue as to how we would do that!!??

    (or genetically altering those cells with different DNA back to their original state, based on the clean DNA sample that individual has?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    If you ask me and I am far from a scientist, I still find it suspect that we have had millions/billions of dollars put into AIDS research and still to this day don't even have a accurate test that can detect the virus.

    Is I possible that it's that far over our heads? Sure, I guess. It's just my opinion.
    I think it is due to our not being technologically ready to really tackle the problem. Much of the foundation to even begin the research wasn't in place yet. So, we really had to get the basics in place. Again, a real clue to where we are at viral cure technology is by looking at where we are with the herpes virus. Nowhere. We treat the symptoms, not the virus itself.

    Flash to a quick analogy to explain why we had to spend billions for nothing.....

    Think of aids virus cure research as a project. Left on it's own, we may have had a cure in (i'm guessing) something like 20 years. this research is an evolutionary process. For example, before you can "invent" an engine, you better already have discovered how to forge steel. the industrial process and mass production made this invention affordable to the masses. But if we are 1820's era technology, how many $$ would you have to throw at this project if you told your scientists they had to design and create an airplane? All the money in the world would not have been able to produce anything in under 5 years. Not only did they NOT have the technology, they didn't even have the theory of flight~!

    We were in a similar situation with trying to find a cure for aids. It was a huge political hot button topic, and, after all, it was only tax payer $$ that funded the research. I think going into this, it was very naive to think we'd find a cure in 5 years. We were so ignorant, we didn't even know what we didn't know. Can you imagine the public outcry if a politician publically commented that aids research as a huge waste of money and time? that our best investment was in prevention? and the next best investment was in improving overall quality of life? Never could have happened, any politician with that coming out of their mouth would have been sacked!

    So, we govern to public opinion, irregardless the cost. I think an honest answer to an aids cure is that it is still pretty far down the road (5+ years, maybe more)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    I think it is due to our not being technologically ready to really tackle the problem. Much of the foundation to even begin the research wasn't in place yet. So, we really had to get the basics in place. Again, a real clue to where we are at viral cure technology is by looking at where we are with the herpes virus. Nowhere. We treat the symptoms, not the virus itself.

    Flash to a quick analogy to explain why we had to spend billions for nothing.....

    Think of aids virus cure research as a project. Left on it's own, we may have had a cure in (i'm guessing) something like 20 years. this research is an evolutionary process. For example, before you can "invent" an engine, you better already have discovered how to forge steel. the industrial process and mass production made this invention affordable to the masses. But if we are 1820's era technology, how many $$ would you have to throw at this project if you told your scientists they had to design and create an airplane? All the money in the world would not have been able to produce anything in under 5 years. Not only did they NOT have the technology, they didn't even have the theory of flight~!

    We were in a similar situation with trying to find a cure for aids. It was a huge political hot button topic, and, after all, it was only tax payer $$ that funded the research. I think going into this, it was very naive to think we'd find a cure in 5 years. We were so ignorant, we didn't even know what we didn't know. Can you imagine the public outcry if a politician publically commented that aids research as a huge waste of money and time? that our best investment was in prevention? and the next best investment was in improving overall quality of life? Never could have happened, any politician with that coming out of their mouth would have been sacked!

    So, we govern to public opinion, irregardless the cost. I think an honest answer to an aids cure is that it is still pretty far down the road (5+ years, maybe more)
    I was with you on this until you said "iiregardless" again..... and now your whole arguement is bollocks

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    Im 99.99% sure they have a cure for aids but it's a disease of convenience I think.

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    Some good news.

    Protein may be cancer breakthrough
    AAP November 1, 2010, 6:54 am



    SYDNEY, Nov 1 AAP - A protein called perforin that kills rogue cells in the human body may a breakthrough in the fight against cancer and diabetes, researchers say.

    A team of Melbourne and London researchers have shown perforin punches holes in, and kills, rogue cells in our bodies.

    Their discovery of the mechanism is published on Monday in the science journal Nature.

    "Perforin is our body's weapon of cleansing and death," Monash University professor James Whisstock said.

    "It breaks into cells that have been hijacked by viruses or turned into cancer cells and allows toxic enzymes in, to destroy the cell from within.

    "Without it our immune system can't destroy these cells. Now we know how it works, we can start to fine tune it to fight cancer, malaria and diabetes."

    The first observations that the human immune system could punch holes in target cells was made by the Nobel laureate Jules Bordet over 110 years ago.

    The researchers from Monash University and the Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre in Melbourne, and Birkbeck College in London, collaborated on the ten-year study to unravel the molecular structure and function of perforin, the protein responsible.

    The structure was revealed with the help of the Australian Synchrotron, and with powerful electron microscopes at Birkbeck.

    Combining the detailed structure of a single perforin molecule with the electron microscopy reconstruction of a ring of perforins forming a hole in a model membrane reveals how this protein assembles to punch holes in cell membranes.

    The new research has confirmed that the important parts of the perforin molecule are quite similar to those in toxins deployed by bacteria such as anthrax, listeria and streptococcus.

    "The molecular structure has survived for close to two billion years, we think," head of cancer immunology at the Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre, Professor Joe Trapani, said.

    Perforin is also the culprit when the wrong cells are marked for elimination, either in autoimmune disease conditions, such as early onset diabetes, or in tissue rejection following bone marrow transplantation.

    So the researchers are now investigating ways to boost perforin for more effective cancer protection, and therapy for acute diseases such as cerebral malaria.
    With the help of a $1 million grant from the Wellcome Trust they are working on potential inhibitors to suppress perforin and counter tissue rejection.

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/8233...-breakthrough/

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    AIDS not only attacks the immune system but it intertwins itself within our existing DNA. So how do you remove the defective DNA without damaging the good DNA? In short you can't which is why currently there is no cure. Although I have read articles that show we have the ability to total wipe out our immune system and rebuild it which seems like the solution to many of these viruses. How? Stemcells. (opens another can of worms).

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    Haz avatar sucks, change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Haz avatar sucks, change it.
    That moment at 4am in a NYC when I met Victor was a huge deal..... In a land of drunks and druggies..... one huge fvcker and an amateur shook hands and knew we were awesome..... i'm keeping it

    ~Haz~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    That moment at 4am in a NYC when I met Victor was a huge deal..... In a land of drunks and druggies..... one huge fvcker and an amateur shook hands and knew we were awesome..... i'm keeping it

    ~Haz~
    We are so broken up right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Haz avatar sucks, change it.
    well, D, it appears that your avatar suggests you are a huge fan of razor burn? With stubbles that short, I'm sure both those faces are beet red after only a few moments of smooching. You must be into pain?

    Or is your avatar suggesting something else I'm just flat out not seeing? =)

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    LOL! well..... it wouldn't have happened if you just sucked it up and came to nyc with me like I asked you to..... you also could have put a beatdown on a tranny that whiped sweat off my back..... that wasn't cool.....

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    When was the first known case of cancer detected?

    Was this a result of human doing (cancer)? Diet, lifestyle etc...?

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    Anyone of the opinion we will never find a "cure" for cancer?

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    As someone with a hand in the pharmacoly industry, I can confirm DSM's suspicions on this matter. People literally die every day for these selfish bastards to sip martinis in their summer homes in Mexico every year. I have seen it first-hand and the tactics they use truly disgust me

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    Quote Originally Posted by indie10669 View Post
    As someone with a hand in the pharmacoly industry, I can confirm DSM's suspicions on this matter. People literally die every day for these selfish bastards to sip martinis in their summer homes in Mexico every year. I have seen it first-hand and the tactics they use truly disgust me
    Yea, you sound like you are really involved in the industry you can't seem to spell properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indie10669 View Post
    As someone with a hand in the pharmacoly industry, I can confirm DSM's suspicions on this matter. People literally die every day for these selfish bastards to sip martinis in their summer homes in Mexico every year. I have seen it first-hand and the tactics they use truly disgust me
    Wow! I wonder what kind of martini can do that??

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    Iam of the opinion that we will never find a cure for cancer,they say that everybody has the cancer cells in there body and that something triggers it in the body what no one knows this includes the doctors,Theres one thing for sure if cancer runs in your family then your genetics says that your number on the board,the same as heart and blood disorders its all genetics Swifto an answer to your question http://cancer.about.com/od/historyof...cerhistory.htm so cancer has been about a long time and still no CURE 1500 B.C they cut cancer out sh1t not much change there then

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion62 View Post
    Iam of the opinion that we will never find a cure for cancer,they say that everybody has the cancer cells in there body and that something triggers it in the body what no one knows this includes the doctors,Theres one thing for sure if cancer runs in your family then your genetics says that your number on the board,the same as heart and blood disorders its all genetics Swifto an answer to your question http://cancer.about.com/od/historyof...cerhistory.htm so cancer has been about a long time and still no CURE 1500 B.C they cut cancer out sh1t not much change there then
    A cancer cell is just a mutation gone awry, an incomplete copy or an innaccurate copy of a good cell. It continues to replicate incorrectly. Every cell has the potential, when it divides, to become a cancer cell. Look at the November Issue of the LifeExtension magazine, and then read the article on Metformin. The term "cancer" is pretty generic. There are so many types of cancer. it is like saying we will find the cure for desease. We have already come a long way. And I think the next ten years will bring us even further....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    well, D, it appears that your avatar suggests you are a huge fan of razor burn? With stubbles that short, I'm sure both those faces are beet red after only a few moments of smooching. You must be into pain?

    Or is your avatar suggesting something else I'm just flat out not seeing? =)
    Yeah i love facial hair. Rubbing stubble while kissing is so hot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    LOL! well..... it wouldn't have happened if you just sucked it up and came to nyc with me like I asked you to..... you also could have put a beatdown on a tranny that whiped sweat off my back..... that wasn't cool.....

    ~Haz~
    You always have trannys around you. Where are you hanging out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Yeah i love facial hair. Rubbing stubble while kissing is so hot.


    You always have trannys around you. Where are you hanging out ?
    Transmission repair shop? =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    Transmission repair shop? =)
    I guess, trannys can sure f*** you if you don't take care of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yannick35 View Post
    And now in a so called recent study i saw on tv they say that a 10 year study showed that food as little to do with cancer?

    How mixed up do you want people to be, and sure its all marketing related, say green tea and the stores will sell all they have. Red meat sells will be a lot less.
    its just the same as with Steroids being overhyped for being the bad guy when there is always an underlying more important (but not on the agenda) cause. You get groups like PETA and such taking a small tidbit from a research study and then posting a billboard stating that red meat with kill you, cause importance and a shitload of other negative life altering problems.

    I feel for you man, I lost my grandpa to a 3 year battle with lung cancer that finally spread to every bone and organ in his body... makes you wonder how we can clone humans (legal or not) but not cure cancer.

    Theres the obvious answer to that. There are no re-occuring patients if you cure a disease, theres more money if you treat them for the remainder of their life. Pharmaceuticals is like any other business. its just for the money.

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    Some very strong opinions in here.

    Cancer is a lot more complex than the simplistic other diseases.

    And we use ELISA to detect HIV antibodies, and Western blots to detect HIV proteins. You have to understand how small these particles are. As well as a virus that attacks the immune system is quite frankly well set up. In this case, what the hell are we supposed to do to stop it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charcold View Post
    In this case, what the hell are we supposed to do to stop it?
    make it sit through a Sex in the City movie... that always makes me want to leave

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    A cure? Not likely....A vaccine, yes. there are several on the market and in clinical trials. as TR said there is not a universal cure. every form of cancer is treated as a separate disease.

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    My point exactly MuscleScience

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    Virus breakthrough raises hope over ending common cold

    Scientists say they have made a landmark discovery which could pave the way for new drugs to beat illnesses like the common cold.

    Until now experts had thought that antibodies could only tackle viral infections by blocking or attacking viruses outside cells.

    But work done by the Medical Research Council shows antibodies can pass into cells and fight viruses from within.

    PNAS journal said the finding held promise for a new antiviral drugs.

    The Cambridge scientists stressed that it would take years of work and testing to find new therapies, and said that the pathway they had discovered would not work on all viruses.

    Fighting viruses
    Some antiviral drugs are already available to help treat certain conditions, like HIV.


    But viruses remain mankind's biggest killer, responsible for twice as many deaths each year as cancer, and are among the hardest of all diseases to treat.

    The new discovery by Dr Leo James and colleagues transforms the previous scientific understanding of our immunity to viral diseases like the common cold, 'winter vomiting' and gastroenteritis.

    It shows that antibodies can enter cells and that once inside, they then trigger a response, led by a protein called TRIM21.

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    Doctors have plenty of antibiotics to fight bacterial infections but few antiviral drugs”

    Dr Leo James
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    This protein pulls the virus into a disposal system used by the cell to get rid of unwanted material.

    The researchers found this process happens quickly, usually before most viruses have chance to harm the cell.

    And they discovered that increasing the amount of TRIM21 protein in cells makes this process even more effective, suggesting new ways of making better antiviral drugs.

    Dr James said: "Doctors have plenty of antibiotics to fight bacterial infections but few antiviral drugs.

    "Although these are early days, and we don't yet know whether all viruses are cleared by this mechanism, we are excited that our discoveries may open multiple avenues for developing new antiviral drugs."

    Sir Greg Winter, deputy director of the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, said: "This research is not only a leap in our understanding of how and where antibodies work, but more generally in our understanding of immunity and infection."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11673034

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Virus breakthrough raises hope over ending common cold

    Scientists say they have made a landmark discovery which could pave the way for new drugs to beat illnesses like the common cold.

    Until now experts had thought that antibodies could only tackle viral infections by blocking or attacking viruses outside cells.

    But work done by the Medical Research Council shows antibodies can pass into cells and fight viruses from within.

    PNAS journal said the finding held promise for a new antiviral drugs.

    The Cambridge scientists stressed that it would take years of work and testing to find new therapies, and said that the pathway they had discovered would not work on all viruses.

    Fighting viruses
    Some antiviral drugs are already available to help treat certain conditions, like HIV.


    But viruses remain mankind's biggest killer, responsible for twice as many deaths each year as cancer, and are among the hardest of all diseases to treat.

    The new discovery by Dr Leo James and colleagues transforms the previous scientific understanding of our immunity to viral diseases like the common cold, 'winter vomiting' and gastroenteritis.

    It shows that antibodies can enter cells and that once inside, they then trigger a response, led by a protein called TRIM21.

    Continue reading the main story

    Start Quote

    Doctors have plenty of antibiotics to fight bacterial infections but few antiviral drugs”

    Dr Leo James
    Lead researcher at the MRC in Cambridge
    This protein pulls the virus into a disposal system used by the cell to get rid of unwanted material.

    The researchers found this process happens quickly, usually before most viruses have chance to harm the cell.

    And they discovered that increasing the amount of TRIM21 protein in cells makes this process even more effective, suggesting new ways of making better antiviral drugs.

    Dr James said: "Doctors have plenty of antibiotics to fight bacterial infections but few antiviral drugs.

    "Although these are early days, and we don't yet know whether all viruses are cleared by this mechanism, we are excited that our discoveries may open multiple avenues for developing new antiviral drugs."

    Sir Greg Winter, deputy director of the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, said: "This research is not only a leap in our understanding of how and where antibodies work, but more generally in our understanding of immunity and infection."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11673034
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    Two new antibodies may lead to HIV/AIDS vaccine

    July 14, 2010 — 3:39pm ET | By Erica Teichert




    Federal researchers have discovered two antibodies that may bring about the renaissance of HIV and AIDS treatment. The antibodies, VRC01 and VRC02, can kill up to 90 percent of HIV strains, compared to a 30 or 40 kill percentage in previously found antibodies. The researchers' findings were published in the Science journal this month.
    "I am more optimistic about an AIDS vaccine at this point in time than I have been probably in the last 10 years," Dr. Gary Nabel of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases tells Reuters. "We're going to be at this for a while." The antibodies are naturally created by some infected patients once AIDS sets in, but at that point it's too late. Researchers hope that by studying these antibodies, they will be able to create new treatments, or even a successful AIDS vaccine.
    VRC01 and VRC02 attach themselves to a spike on the HIV virus that is normally used to attach to human cells. Due to its purpose, the spike is relatively unchanged in all strains of HIV, leading to the tremendous efficacy of the antibodies. Currently, over 33 million people are infected with HIV, and 25 million have died since the late 1980s.
    "What that is telling us is that you can identify the portion of the virus that you would like to use as a vaccine, because we know that when the antibodies bind to that portion, it knock down the virus," said Anthony Fauci, head of the U.S. institute of infectious diseases.





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    What about there supposed women that are immune from HIV/AIDs in Africa (prostitutes), or is that nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    What about there supposed women that are immune from HIV/AIDs in Africa (prostitutes), or is that nonsense?
    There are some people who lack a cell surface receptor which the virus recognizes and uses to infect T cells. Becuase of this they are immune to effects of the virus. I am not sure if this means they simply live unaffected with the virus, or whether the virus itself is eliminated after a period of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    What about there supposed women that are immune from HIV/AIDs in Africa (prostitutes), or is that nonsense?
    there have been a few documented cases of HIV infected patients showing clean and maintain clean. With several billion people currently walking on dirt, we have extreme genetic diversity, which means a very small percentage of people will not succumb to the virus, and will actually be able to kill it (or it dies off since unable to reproduce at a cellular level, more or less the same).

    Yet another benefit for diversity....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    What about there supposed women that are immune from HIV/AIDs in Africa (prostitutes), or is that nonsense?
    I read about this as well. Really interesting.

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    Just read this today Swift

    Clue to how some 'control' their HIV without medication


    Tiny changes to an "alarm" protein which responds to infections may explain why some with HIV can control their condition without drugs.

    Around one in 300 people with HIV are "controllers", and scientists want to replicate how their bodies behave.

    Writing in Science, US researchers say differences in five amino acids in a protein called HLA-B are key.

    But a UK expert said there was still a "long way" to go before a vaccine or a new drug for HIV could be developed.

    HIV "controllers" were first identified almost 20 years ago. They are able to suppress viral replication with their immune system, keeping viral load at extremely low levels, without using anti-retroviral drugs.

    It was already known that certain genes involved with the HLA system were important for HIV control. But scientists had not identified which genes were involved or how they acted.

    Drag and drop

    The researchers carried out a genome-wide association study of the genetic make-up of almost 1,000 controllers and 2,600 people with progressive HIV.

    Around 300 points were found to be associated with immune control of HIV, all in regions of chromosome six that code for HLA proteins.


    Scientists were then able to pinpoint specific amino acids and identified the five in the HLA-B protein as playing the key role.

    HLA-B is part of the process by which the immune system recognises and destroys virus-infected cells.

    Part of the protein called a binding pocket "drags and drops" peptides from inside the virus onto the cell membrane.

    These then mark out the cell for destruction by CD8 "killer" T cells in the immune system.

    All five of the amino acids identified by researchers are in the binding pocket.

    Scientists from Massachusetts General Hospital, Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University carried out the work.

    Bruce Walker of the Ragon Institute at Massachusetts General Hospital, one of the lead authors of the paper, said: "We found that, of the 3bn nucleotides in the human genome, just a handful make the difference between those who can stay healthy in spite of HIV infection and those who, without treatment, will develop Aids.

    "Knowing how an effective immune response against HIV is generated is an important step toward replicating that response with a vaccine.

    "We have a long way to go before translating this into a treatment for infected patients and a vaccine to prevent infection, but we are an important step closer."

    Gus Cairns, editor of HIV Treatment Update of the UK's National Aids Manual, said: "As the researchers say, this research opens the door to the development of a vaccine that could encourage the body to mimic the most effective kind of immune response, or to drugs that could interfere with HIV's ability to infect cells and derange the immune system.

    "Nonetheless there is still a lot we don't know about why some genetic variants provide a much less welcoming environment for HIV than others and, although we are becoming clearer about what kinds of specific immune response are effective against HIV, we are a long way from being able to make them happen, or even knowing what we must do to make them happen."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11692798

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Just read this today Swift

    Clue to how some 'control' their HIV without medication


    Tiny changes to an "alarm" protein which responds to infections may explain why some with HIV can control their condition without drugs.

    Around one in 300 people with HIV are "controllers", and scientists want to replicate how their bodies behave.

    Writing in Science, US researchers say differences in five amino acids in a protein called HLA-B are key.

    But a UK expert said there was still a "long way" to go before a vaccine or a new drug for HIV could be developed.

    HIV "controllers" were first identified almost 20 years ago. They are able to suppress viral replication with their immune system, keeping viral load at extremely low levels, without using anti-retroviral drugs.

    It was already known that certain genes involved with the HLA system were important for HIV control. But scientists had not identified which genes were involved or how they acted.

    Drag and drop

    The researchers carried out a genome-wide association study of the genetic make-up of almost 1,000 controllers and 2,600 people with progressive HIV.

    Around 300 points were found to be associated with immune control of HIV, all in regions of chromosome six that code for HLA proteins.


    Scientists were then able to pinpoint specific amino acids and identified the five in the HLA-B protein as playing the key role.

    HLA-B is part of the process by which the immune system recognises and destroys virus-infected cells.

    Part of the protein called a binding pocket "drags and drops" peptides from inside the virus onto the cell membrane.

    These then mark out the cell for destruction by CD8 "killer" T cells in the immune system.

    All five of the amino acids identified by researchers are in the binding pocket.

    Scientists from Massachusetts General Hospital, Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University carried out the work.

    Bruce Walker of the Ragon Institute at Massachusetts General Hospital, one of the lead authors of the paper, said: "We found that, of the 3bn nucleotides in the human genome, just a handful make the difference between those who can stay healthy in spite of HIV infection and those who, without treatment, will develop Aids.

    "Knowing how an effective immune response against HIV is generated is an important step toward replicating that response with a vaccine.

    "We have a long way to go before translating this into a treatment for infected patients and a vaccine to prevent infection, but we are an important step closer."

    Gus Cairns, editor of HIV Treatment Update of the UK's National Aids Manual, said: "As the researchers say, this research opens the door to the development of a vaccine that could encourage the body to mimic the most effective kind of immune response, or to drugs that could interfere with HIV's ability to infect cells and derange the immune system.

    "Nonetheless there is still a lot we don't know about why some genetic variants provide a much less welcoming environment for HIV than others and, although we are becoming clearer about what kinds of specific immune response are effective against HIV, we are a long way from being able to make them happen, or even knowing what we must do to make them happen."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11692798
    Very interesting. However it is slightly scary to think that even for people with this genetic trait, it is very likely that sooner than later a sub-strain of the HIV virus will mutate with the effect of escaping this type of host defense. Viruses mutate so easily and quickly that the odds are a random mutation will eventually code for a slightly different protein product or sequence which allows the virus to evade this mechanism. This is the exact reason why we have not been able to cure the disease as of yet. We can only control the levels of the virus in the body through the use of multiple drugs administered in conjunction.
    A vaccine may in fact be our best defense against HIV, but again I think that it may be similar to the current flu vaccination, it prevents infection by some of the strains, but not by others.

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