1st cycle - simple, effective, & researched!

[MickeyKnox]

I'm curious. On a good day your 5-8? What are you on a bad day. No just kidding. Looks good. I would drop the dbol and add hcg. I also like clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20. But that's personal preference.

a big X2.

Alright folks, I am going to start my cycle next week...WOOT

Here are the changes I have done based on many veterans opinions and research:

Week 1-12: Test Cyp, 250/wk (I really wanted to do 500, but I am hearing that for a first timer, 250 is plenty)
Week 1-12: Arimidex .25mg EOD

PCT - starts 18 days after last injection
Clomid : 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

If there are any objections, please speak you mind.

I am also going to start a log for all the first timers out there and any others that are interested.

if you've planned for 400 stick with 400/wk. you'll see some nice gains. and trust me, if you don't, you'll end up in here asking if you can up the dose.

and yes, start a log on here. if foe no other reason it will assist to keep you on track.

[trackstar19]

Yup, I think this is the route I will go.. I will start a log soon with pics. Thanks bro.

Sounds great man, good luck! Definitely take lots of progress photos, it can be hard to realize how much your own body is slowly transforming without looking back on pictures. I think you'll be very satisfied at the end, and it's great to see you have a solid PCT lined up. Too many people don't do their research and wonder why they get bitch tits and lose all their gains post cycle

[Trying-Hard]

Thanks fellas. Log to start very soon with beginning, mid, and end pics along with stats, lifts, etc.

[slatts77]

for pct would just nolva be fine?

[slatts77]

whats more effective, arimidex or aromasin?

[>Good Luck<]

for pct would just nolva be fine?

I had a nolvadex only pct. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, anytime. Not smart

[ppwc1985]

On first cycle of same bro, I would stick to 400test cyp week. I am doing 500 and it's just now starting to kick in, I'm in the middle of 5 th week. As AI I am using ar-r stane it's doing it's job no sides at all so far.

[slatts77]

whats more effective as an AI arimidex or aromasin?

[skyrim]

whats more effective as an AI arimidex or aromasin?

Either one is good IMO. Arimidex is cheaper, so a higher dose can be used for your bigger test cycles. Aromasin costs more but is stronger so you use less during a cycle from what I've heard.

[slatts77]

and its best to run one of those during the cycle, then both nolva and clomid for pct? or is it fine just on nolva

[Trying-Hard]

Slatts77, please do your research. You obviously have done none!

[slatts77]

this is a forum for questions and answers. I dont see why people have to be so arrogant and cant just help someone who is clearly new. I have researched and i have everything down but while doing my research i found that doctors say nolva is the better option because its stronger and less side effects, yet a lot of people on here say its best to take both. I was just asking for advice

[gonzo6183]

You should start your own thread if you need advice

[ppwc1985]

Slatts yes you need an AI for on cycle, I have had a couple older vets here recommend ams. Which you can get at the AR-R banner here at website it is called stane. I am using it and it is doing fine. My first cycle in 17 years. Running 500 mg test c ew. No sides as of yet. They also said for first cycle running one compound which should be test, just running nolv is fine. If you research
The regular site search for beginners cycle and follow that you should be fine. A lot good info here. And yes there are arrogant people here you just have to find the good ones and follow their advice, if it helps usually the older guys have more sense,imo

[slatts77]

thank you for the help, i appreciate you actually answering instead of brushing me off

[ppwc1985]

That's alright, but just do you know most the vets going to tell you to wait till you at least 25, and I'm going to agree. But you young guys got your own mind so not gonna tell you what to do but they know bro so I would listen. This stuff can mess you up for life if uou react badly to it.

[ppwc1985]

You wanna put on 20 lbs in two months without gear, this is what you do. Eat 5000 cals and do this workout, when I was 18 I went from 185 to 205 in 7 weeks following this workout, uou need a partner and 2. 1/2 hrs 6 days a week but I can promise you you follow it and take good weight gainer shakes and you will add a lot muscle and be ripped.

[slatts77]

thank you and i will use that. But im only planning on doing 2 cycles and stopping. I know everyone says its hard to stop but i know i can do it for specific reasons

[ppwc1985]

Ok as long as you know the risks of doing them so young, if they mess up your body you will have to take test shots the rest of your life that would suck, you can put on a lot weight buy just eating, using a good creatine and weight gainer shakes working out hard and getting proper rest. But you an adult do good luck either way.

[slatts77]

yeah, ive read a lot about all the risks which is why im going to try and do this the best way possible with the AI's and HCG and proper PCT. I have one question about the liquid letro, is .25mg EOD enough?

[raghavm]

Thanks fellas. Log to start very soon with beginning, mid, and end pics along with stats, lifts, etc.

Cool. Start the log as soon as possible mate, beginners like me will get a lot of help from that.

[ppwc1985]

Idk I use the stane from them it cost a little more but it is supposed to be better, start a new thread and ask about that, just be prepared for do flack about your age. Good luck bro

[slatts77]

Idk I use the stane from them it cost a little more but it is supposed to be better, start a new thread and ask about that, just be prepared for do flack about your age. Good luck bro

thank you. Appreciate all the help.

[Trying-Hard]

So I am in my 2nd week now and things are going well. Yesterday's gym session was an eye opener, in a good way..=) I can't wait to see what happens at week 5 and on.

How do you guys feel about upping the Arimidex from .25 EOD to .5 EOD? Although I don't have any gyno sides at all up to this point, I do feel the bloat coming on. Your thoughts on this? My bulking diet is pretty clean.

I am also getting HCG today and will be starting it next week all the way up to my very last Cyp injection. 500 mcgs/WK - injecting on same days as the test injections, subq.

[Trying-Hard]

So I am in my 2nd week now and things are going well. Yesterday's gym session was an eye opener, in a good way..=) I can't wait to see what happens at week 5 and on.

How do you guys feel about upping the Arimidex from .25 EOD to .5 EOD? Although I don't have any gyno sides at all up to this point, I do feel the bloat coming on. Your thoughts on this? My bulking diet is pretty clean.

I am also getting HCG today and will be starting it next week all the way up to my very last Cyp injection. 500 mcgs/WK - injecting on same days as the test injections, subq.

Come on people...help out the little guy...=)