Need cutting advice for my GF....

[DigitalGorilla]

How am I wrong? You didn't even make a reference to your statement, it makes no sense. So if i'm getting this right.. you just said a big mac has 29g of fat and 10g of that fat is saturated. umm... so the point your making is that fat is bad and saturated fat is worse? Well too pull words from your mouth. That is not only wrong, it's retarded. Fat is just as important as protein.. (pitty help you if you didnt already know that). in addition to that.. saturated fat is also needed. approximately 30% of your total fat would benefit from being saturated, although going higher then this isnt great. Maybe your thinking of trans fat which are always bad.

I'll try to explain how it's plausible that you can factor takeaway into your diet quite easily if a person wanted to do so.



To construct a proper diet the right macro nutrient ratios are as follows:
1g - 1.5g of protein x per lb of lean bodyweight (lean bodyweight means substracting all your bodyfat and using that number as the variable)
0.4g - 1g of Fat x per lb of total bodyweight
2.5g - 3.5g of Carbohydrates x per lb of total bodyweight

Now you find out how many calories you need to burn to maintain your weight. Then either increase or decrease this number by 10-20% to gain or lose weight.

So lets say i've found my numbers and worked out my everyday diet.

Meal 1 contains:
Calories: 501
Protein: 39.4
Carbs: 48.0
Fat: 17.1

Say I decide i'd prefer takeout and wish to substitute this meal with a:

Quarter Pounder:
Calories: 549
Protein: 33.6
Carbs: 33.5
Fat: 30.3

In my personal diet my protein ratios are on the high end already (1.5g x lb) and my fat ratios are on the low end (0.58g x lb)
This gives me quite alot of leg room to make substitutes and still make the gains i'm aiming for. You'd only really need to stay in the high protein range if you were cutting.

I've backed up all my claims yet when i pinned judah for a descent response, he retorted with "you said anavar instead of substances" and cowered away from the debate without supporting his original argument. If your going to say somethings retarded, atleast give a reason why and preferably make sure that reasoning makes sense. So far, no ones done this. My only real issues with this whole thing is that by reading your thread. Your clearly more interested in finding this magical cure drug to drop the pounds that your blind to where the problem actually lies, which is in nutrition and training, not substances.. I nearly thought it was a joke when the conversation started leading towards the possibility of lipo suction. You cant be serious.

My point is - I dont eat that much fat in a day let alone a sitting. But I guess you know it all...so keep eating fast food. I however dont feel liek dying from clogged arteries. And honestly this is why this forum should be men only - cause you women are annoying!

[swm1972]

How am I wrong? You didn't even make a reference to your statement, it makes no sense. So if i'm getting this right.. you just said a big mac has 29g of fat and 10g of that fat is saturated. umm... so the point your making is that fat is bad and saturated fat is worse? Well too pull words from your mouth. That is not only wrong, it's retarded. Fat is just as important as protein.. (pitty help you if you didnt already know that). in addition to that.. saturated fat is also needed. approximately 30% of your total fat would benefit from being saturated, although going higher then this isnt great. Maybe your thinking of trans fat which are always bad.

I'll try to explain how it's plausible that you can factor takeaway into your diet quite easily if a person wanted to do so.

To construct a proper diet the right macro nutrient ratios are as follows:
1g - 1.5g of protein x per lb of lean bodyweight (lean bodyweight means substracting all your bodyfat and using that number as the variable)
0.4g - 1g of Fat x per lb of total bodyweight
2.5g - 3.5g of Carbohydrates x per lb of total bodyweight

Now you find out how many calories you need to burn to maintain your weight. Then either increase or decrease this number by 10-20% to gain or lose weight.

So lets say i've found my numbers and worked out my everyday diet.

Meal 1 contains:
Calories: 501
Protein: 39.4
Carbs: 48.0
Fat: 17.1

Say I decide i'd prefer takeout and wish to substitute this meal with a:

Quarter Pounder:
Calories: 549
Protein: 33.6
Carbs: 33.5
Fat: 30.3

In my personal diet my protein ratios are on the high end already (1.5g x lb) and my fat ratios are on the low end (0.58g x lb)
This gives me quite alot of leg room to make substitutes and still make the gains i'm aiming for. You'd only really need to stay in the high protein range if you were cutting.

I've backed up all my claims yet when i pinned judah for a descent response, he retorted with "you said anavar instead of substances" and cowered away from the debate without supporting his original argument. If your going to say somethings retarded, atleast give a reason why and preferably make sure that reasoning makes sense. So far, no ones done this. My only real issues with this whole thing is that by reading your thread. Your clearly more interested in finding this magical cure drug to drop the pounds that your blind to where the problem actually lies, which is in nutrition and training, not substances.. I nearly thought it was a joke when the conversation started leading towards the possibility of lipo suction. You cant be serious.

No offense man, but see what that diet will get you in 10 years. Not all carbs are created equal and I've not seen big macs served with complex carb rolls. You are young. Anyone can feel like you do when they are in their 20's and invincible. See what another decade of simple carb digestion does to your insulin sensitivity and let us know where you stand then.

[MuscleInk]

Her daily intake is usually about 60% protein...30% carbs 10% fat. With the exception of apple sauce and fat free popcorn - her diet is pretty amazing. She eats like me...grilled chicken, turkey burgers no bread, egg whites, spinach, broccoli .... never any fast food, candy, cake, soda, cookies, or anything like that.

Sounds good and clean. If the weight loss is stubborn, stick her on fasted cardio 30-45 mins 4x a week.

[DigitalGorilla]

Sounds good and clean. If the weight loss is stubborn, stick her on fasted cardio 30-45 mins 4x a week.

Fasted Cardio? Whats that? Im gonna take a guess and say a cardio routine before your first meal of the day?

[MuscleInk]

Fasted Cardio? Whats that? Im gonna take a guess and say a cardio routine before your first meal of the day?

Yes, cardio on an empty stomach, usually first thing when she wakes up.

Fasted cardio puts you directly into oxidative phosphorylation which feeds off fat stores. When fasted from sleep your body already has used a lot of your glycogen stores so you can utilize fat instead.

The main disadvantage is that it's harder to do any HIIT when fasted. Fasted cardio should be moderate intensity, 30-45 mins.

[DigitalGorilla]

Yes, cardio on an empty stomach, usually first thing when she wakes up.

Fasted cardio puts you directly into oxidative phosphorylation which feeds off fat stores. When fasted from sleep your body already has used a lot of your glycogen stores so you can utilize fat instead.

The main disadvantage is that it's harder to do any HIIT when fasted. Fasted cardio should be moderate intensity, 30-45 mins.

Yea I am gonna have her try that. Thanks bro!

[swm1972]

Clowned, I would personally move away from those protein shakes except in cases where pressed for time. You are already preparing food for quality meals based on that diet. taking the time to eat real food instead (IMO) of protein shakes was one of the most important factors in achieving my goals. Once I moved away from two to three shakes a day and replaced them with baked chicken or fish with sweet potatoes or oatmeal, I found myself breaking through the 240lbs plateau and went all the way into the 260 range.

I won't pretend like I know all the science behind it. But from my own personal observation, real food trumps protein shakes when it comes to results.

That said that diet takes discipline. Good job.

[clowned]

Agree 100%. I'm a uni student atm so it's more a matter of finances and whey is extremely cheap, not to mention it's nice to have a chocolate shake twice a day

I'm an avid milk drinker, so realistically it's only and extra 240 calories from whey a day. While the milk is an extra 600. I'd be curious to know how much calcium a person should intake a day. I might think about reducing it to 1 shake a day and see how I go..

[DigitalGorilla]

You did say it was a good idea and you keep going back on what you say. Just stop. No one agrees with you. You are young and have ALOT to learn. I asked a question here - and need an answer from someone who isnt living in a college bubble.

[clowned]

You did say it was a good idea and you keep going back on what you say. Just stop. No one agrees with you. You are young and have ALOT to learn. I asked a question here - and need an answer from someone who isnt living in a college bubble.

I never went back on anything I said.. are you all there?

[DigitalGorilla]

I never went back on anything I said.. are you all there?

Bro - almost all of your posts are edited by you. And you did say junk food was good, but listen Im not a little kid im not gonna fight with you. COngrats on your diet.

Now for normal adults with lives and some money to spend....the question at hand is Clen. Stubborn belly, fat thick thighs...will clen help? Some say HCG? Shes 29, 5'2, 135 lbs ... thanks in advance to anyone with advice on CLEN or another AAS suggestion..

[DigitalGorilla]

lol Like I said. Her diet and routine are perfect for her age and life. And everyone in here DID RECOMEND A DRUG. SINCE THAT IS WHAT I ASKED. Im not going to argue with you pal. You have your opinion. You expressed it. I dont agree. Now Move on to the next post.

[Times Roman]

Might be a good idea to throw up some pics of yer ol' lady so we can establish a base line much like a "before" pic. Ideally, we need a good visual, with as few clothes on as possible so we get the ability of doing a comparison with the pics you post of her later on. =)

[DigitalGorilla]

Might be a good idea to throw up some pics of yer ol' lady so we can establish a base line much like a "before" pic. Ideally, we need a good visual, with as few clothes on as possible so we get the ability of doing a comparison with the pics you post of her later on. =)

I have some of her now ....but now shes almost where she wants to be. Before the baby - she was about 120. After the baby she was 151lbs....but wouldnt take any pics so I cant really show where she strated.... She stayed that way about 9 months...in January started to train again and shes now 132 I think. Wants to go back to 120.... First 20 lbs came off as expected...1 or 2 lbs a week....then she took some VAR - got great gains in stregnth and muscle...but hasnt been able to lose anything real since then.... But Ill load up some pics today

[DRdee]

^^^2nd that