Did the TEST only cycles. What is next for me?

[cel89]

Seriously I dont understand. You guys talk about having forums to help people and call people your bros but noone ever seems to want to help. I mean do you guys have the perfect body, perfect workouts, and perfect diets? Am I missing something here? Obviously if I didn't gain from my previous cycles with an ok diet then I wouldn't be trying to cycle again lol.


I just don't uderstand it. I do two cycles a year. I'm not abusing. I'm sure some of you guy do 4-5 because people start depending on the "on" feel. But I'm not good enough to get help.


I'm asking a simple question. What's your opinion on a stack above just test e?

I mean if you guys dont think I deserve any suggestions then I completely understand. I'll just go somewhere else to ask for help. No hard feelings.

Seriously my diet is average. I'm prob show ready now but you guys put me down as if I'm some overweight noob. And in another thread you guys tell others to get their bf% down first but in mine you say get it up. Lol seems like some
Bros just don't want to help

1 year ago I thought the exact same as you but then i figured out to get you body where you want its going to be about 70% nutrition and 30 % exercise. trust me mate I was in your exact position

[luda281]

1 year ago I thought the exact same as you but then i figured out to get you body where you want its going to be about 70% nutrition and 30 % exercise. trust me mate I was in your exact position

Which is total bullshiit to me. My diet has never been perfect. It's had decent moments but I acheived a lot with a lack of a proper diet bodybuilders are suppose to have because I worked my asss off in the gym, have good genetics, and of of course the help of supplements and aas


The kitchen is important but I think it's bullshjt thst someone says it's 70% eating. Maybe if you're trying to lose weight an get in shape but not if your trying to build muscle

[luda281]

If you want to see what my physique is like now message me and I'll send you a link

[luda281]

And gixxer, what's your bf? You can't be under 14-15% but you cycle right?

[luda281]

It's not that I don't like your advice. It makes perfect sense to work one diet. It's the lack of advice for my original question

[gixxerboy1]

It's not that I don't like your advice. It makes perfect sense to work one diet. It's the lack of advice for my original question

because no cycle will allow you to keep 10more lbs of muscle with out changing your diet. What dont you understand. THe bigger you are the more calories it takes to maintain it

[Brohim]

It's not that I don't like your advice. It makes perfect sense to work one diet. It's the lack of advice for my original question

You have a hard head. Your diet pertains to your question. Your question is what cycle to do next. THe answer is YOU DON'T NEED STEROIDS TO GAIN 5 LBS.

[luda281]

You have a hard head. Your diet pertains to your question. Your question is what cycle to do next. THe answer is YOU DON'T NEED STEROIDS TO GAIN 5 LBS.

If its so easy why do you juice?

[luda281]

We all know the gains get harder and harder. I gained 30lbs over the years. I think im doing ok so far. I didn't start out heavy like most guys.

[luda281]

You have a hard head. Your diet pertains to your question. Your question is what cycle to do next. THe answer is YOU DON'T NEED STEROIDS TO GAIN 5 LBS.

No you have a hard time understanding the question. It was, "what's a good cycle after test alone?" Not "is my diet good enough for a cycle?" diet is one issue i plan to address already

[Capebuffalo]

Its his diet

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner Bob. Tell him what he's won.

Well he has won an all paid trip to the Nutrition section..

[luda281]

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner Bob. Tell him what he's won.

Well he has won an all paid trip to the Nutrition section..

Seriously judging by your pic, you're smaller than me. Your diet is obviously bad too . You look what? 5'9 160?Im assuming you have never cycled in your life becaus you're working on yor diet right? If you have cycled thenn you're obviously a hypocrit


How are you gonna sit there and tell me I shouldn't do another cycle and diet web you're skinnier than me? I mean are you telling me you like being thin? You can't be consuming more than 2500-3k a day

[Capebuffalo]

Seriously judging by your pic, you're smaller than me. Your diet is obviously bad too . You look what? 5'9 160?Im assuming you have never cycled in your life becaus you're working on yor diet right? If you have cycled thenn you're obviously a hypocrit


How are you gonna sit there and tell me I shouldn't do another cycle and diet web you're skinnier than me? I mean are you telling me you like being thin? You can't be consuming more than 2500-3k a day

Your numbers are a little off. But your right I started this week working on my diet. 4000 cals a day . 6 Meals. Know why ? Because diet is the most important thing. Please let me have the link you mentioned. I would love to see our similar body types. Your being slightly better though.

[Lunk1]

Your numbers are a little off. But your right I started this week working on my diet. 4000 cals a day . 6 Meals. Know why ? Because diet is the most important thing. Please let me have the link you mentioned. I would love to see our similar body types. Your being slightly better though.

Cape...you want some of my cals, I can't eat em all!

[luda281]

Your numbers are a little off. But your right I started this week working on my diet. 4000 cals a day . 6 Meals. Know why ? Because diet is the most important thing. Please let me have the link you mentioned. I would love to see our similar body types. Your being slightly better though.

Pmed bro! I'll let you tell me and everyone what I need to work on since you're pro

[Evrael]

The most effective way to gain is to bulk and then cut. It sounds like you're trying to skip the bulking and maintain a cut figure, which means that you will gain very slowly unless your diet is perfect. And based upon what you said, it's only ok. Sure bro throw the tren on and see what happens.

[gixxerboy1]

You got the proper response but don't like it. Take any and all the steroids you want. If you dont fix your diet. It will be meaningless.
An ok diet will only get you so far. Amd no offense but what kind of show do you think your ready for?

[luda281]

You got the proper response but don't like it. Take any and all the steroids you want. If you dont fix your diet. It will be meaningless.
An ok diet will only get you so far. Amd no offense but what kind of show do you think your ready for?

I don't think I'm ready for any shows. It's the bodybuilders at my gym who said I can win my class now at an amateur show in Texas.

I've leaned bulked from day one and it's worked for me. That's why I stick With it. Some ppl bulk then cut but it's not soemthing for me as of right now. One day my metabolism will slow down and I will go thy route but it's pretty hard right now

[gixxerboy1]

I bounce between 10 and 12 if i get to 14 15 my wife would call me fat

[Lunk1]

Look...I gave you your answer in post #42. That with an increase in calories will gain you your 10 lbs.

I am afraid the real problem here is that you just want answers on adding OTHER compounds when there is really no need

[luda281]

Look...I gave you your answer in post #42. That with an increase in calories will gain you your 10 lbs.

I am afraid the real problem here is that you just want answers on adding OTHER compounds when there is really no need

So you're saying stick with just test?


Once again everyone I plan to address my diet before I even start the cycle. Either way I'm gonna cycle. We are all here for the same reason. Steroids! This isn't a how to gain naturally site. This is a steroids site . So I don't understand why everyone acts like they prefer to do it naturally.

[gixxerboy1]

We all know the gains get harder and harder. I gained 30lbs over the years. I think im doing ok so far. I didn't start out heavy like most guys.

Nobody said you didn't make good gains. I started skinny too. But you can only get so far with your current diet. And you've reached that point.

[gixxerboy1]

Another test cycle. You don't need to add anything

[luda281]

Another test cycle. You don't need to add anything

Thank you! Lol

[Lunk1]

Thank you! Lol

Problem solved, another happy camper. Next we should see a post from ya in the nutrition section.....right?

[Lunk1]

I just had #2 and I am trying to CUT and i am getting so full i want to puke. To think that the op has been eating enough lol.

[Capebuffalo]

I just had #2 and I am trying to CUT and i am getting so full i want to puke. To think that the op has been eating enough lol.

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

[JohnnyVegas]

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

Agreed. I hate doing all those things. If I didn't cook ten pounds of chicken at a time I would truly hate making food. Now that I have moved my office to my house, I don't have to package all my food to take to work any more. Love that.

[kmms]

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

that's what girlfriends are for!

without mine i wouldn't bother doing this.

[Capebuffalo]

that's what girlfriends are for!

without mine i wouldn't bother doing this.

Tell me about it. I'm between girlfriends right now.

And my wife won't do it.

[Lunk1]

Tell me about it. I'm between girlfriends right now.

And my wife won't do it.

Another reason I keep telling the wife I need a mistress for Xmas!

[Live for the PUMP]

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

You got that right! If only I could put the dedication I put into my diet into my career! haha

[600@50]

Luda......It seems you already have the answer to your question of how to gain 10 more lbs. Why don't you just stick with the 500 mgs of test for a cycle or 2? You said you gained 6 lbs on that dosage so just do another couple of test only cycles. But remember as your weight goes up you will have to eat more to gain the muscle and to keep it.

So really what's wrong with being 5'8" and 230 lbs? At age 23 I weighed 165-170. I gained all this through diet and a trt dose of test because of cycles done earlier. The 10 lbs you're after may cost you your nuts too.

[luda281]

Luda......It seems you already have the answer to your question of how to gain 10 more lbs. Why don't you just stick with the 500 mgs of test for a cycle or 2? You said you gained 6 lbs on that dosage so just do another couple of test only cycles. But remember as your weight goes up you will have to eat more to gain the muscle and to keep it.

So really what's wrong with being 5'8" and 230 lbs? At age 23 I weighed 165-170. I gained all this through diet and a trt dose of test because of cycles done earlier. The 10 lbs you're after may cost you your nuts too.

Hey to each his own. I just can't imagine myself being anywhere near 200. But I'm built real compact so I actually look 180-190lbs. I will do test e again and either throw Ina. Kick start or do anavar at the end. My nuts did shrink on test but they are nicely plump now. Feels real good to grab my balls after they were small for so long lol.


I feel y'all on the eating and I'm trying.

[Lunk1]

UPDATE: I saw some pics of "someone" on a web site that he pm'd Cape and I. IFit's really him then he should be here sahring workout advise with quite a few of us. I then asked the OP to send me a pic doing something I requested to assure that it REALLY was him. I got the pic but it was to difficult to match the pic sent to the web site pics. I asked for another specific pic (yes I am a pain in the arse) and have not gotten it yet. I will say this, if that's 165 I would sh!t cause dude looks 200lbs large! Props to ya op IF it is you...still waiting on that pic.

[luda281]

Pm me your phone number and I'll send you proof it's me bro. You too bevsta your talkin a lot of shitt like I'm some noob to bodybuilding. I hope you have some badass physique to be talkin to ppl the way you do

[Capebuffalo]

Pm me your phone number and I'll send you proof it's me bro. You too bevsta your talkin a lot of shitt like I'm some noob to bodybuilding. I hope you have some badass physique to be talkin to ppl the way you do

How to win friends and influence people, is not this .

[luda281]

How to win friends and influence people, is not this .

Well when someone who doesn't know you at all comes in and calls you a retard, I'm suppose to respect that? I'm not trying to win his friendship because he has nothing to offer me.

[kelkel]

Better yet, video it please.

[luda281]

Just because I didn't jump straight into aas doesn't mean Im some scrub that is inferior to you because you've been taking aas.