Need preworkout suggestion

[Couchlockd]

Windex or any guy with thousands of posts that has never said a kind word to anyone should find the door in my opinion.
100% negativity that we have fought hard.

You are right its between him and family guy actually but I am not the only guy sick of his pure negative demeanor.

My friends are pretty much any supportive person on the board btw including you.

This site is great for informationbut even more than that the brotherhood. When an iron brother is having a rough go being able to be thete for them when a family member is dying, deathly sick like FG's father, getting a divorce, or even just burnt put and depressed is better than all scientific fact on earth.

We are bodybuildets and bleed thick blood togeether. People who push like we do are gonna need real support at some point.

I am done now but come on windex... Remove the stickfrom your ass.

We bleed thick blood because they won't let us donate

[Obs]

My pre workout is ephedrine and redbull but I actually have tried the stuff Famguy was talking about. It was good for the bargain.

[Ashop]

I normally take a tab of caffeine and a capsule of ECGC, but usually crash after hour and a half max. Keep adding or upping the dose or anything better out there ?



Thanks in advance

I liked the AMP citrate and DMAA based pre workouts when I look for something strong. Problem for me is they last too long, often the entire day.

[charger69]

I liked the AMP citrate and DMAA based pre workouts when I look for something strong. Problem for me is they last too long, often the entire day.

Last too long- how is that possible??


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[Ashop]

Last too long- how is that possible??


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I want something that gives me a kick while in the gym and then wears off. AMP citrate and DMAA keep you amped up 8-12 hours easily. I don't enjoy stimulants so that's far to long for me.

[DHew]

Wow, what a response from a newly promoted member. Pathetic.

Firstly, Cortisol levels can fluctuate throughout the day, and a higher, or lower, level at any given point isn't indicative of a problem.

Secondly, your quick google searched peer reviewed studies only state the obvious: cortisol levels rise with stress and/or caffeine intake. You are trying to infer that, therefore, muscular atrophy will occur because cortisol levels are negatively impacted. Where you fail to shine is by showing studies that indicate what levels of cortisol rise, or fall, actually have anything more than a negligible impact on muscular tissue size. This has been argued for decades. I can also quickly pull up some google searched studies, but you seem to be better at that than I. I prefer the UM data research portal that I used to get both of my PhDs. But yeah, continue to use ncbi.

Just, wow. What an asshole.

[ghettoboyd]

Wow, what a response from a newly promoted member. Pathetic.

Firstly, Cortisol levels can fluctuate throughout the day, and a higher, or lower, level at any given point isn't indicative of a problem.

Secondly, your quick google searched peer reviewed studies only state the obvious: cortisol levels rise with stress and/or caffeine intake. You are trying to infer that, therefore, muscular atrophy will occur because cortisol levels are negatively impacted. Where you fail to shine is by showing studies that indicate what levels of cortisol rise, or fall, actually have anything more than a negligible impact on muscular tissue size. This has been argued for decades. I can also quickly pull up some google searched studies, but you seem to be better at that than I. I prefer the UM data research portal that I used to get both of my PhDs. But yeah, continue to use ncbi.

Just, wow. What an asshole.

I don’t know buddy you just bumped a thread that has been quiet for nearly a month just to argue and tell staff he’s an asshole...I get that windex is not everyone’s favorite but he dose good things here imho otherwise he wouldn’t be staff and it dose get offensive to the other staff and members that he has helped when you guys openly piss on him...he was my nomination that admin and other staff approved with no debate...so now I guess it’s my turn for a beating...bring it...

[charger69]

I don’t know buddy you just bumped a thread that has been quiet for nearly a month just to argue and tell staff he’s an asshole...I get that windex is not everyone’s favorite but he dose good things here imho otherwise he wouldn’t be staff and it dose get offensive to the other staff and members that he has helped when you guys openly piss on him...he was my nomination that admin and other staff approved with no debate...so now I guess it’s my turn for a beating...bring it...

We can’t beat on you..... you are a cuddly teddy bear.


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[DHew]

No issues with you Boyd. I said was I was thinking and now it’s over.

[ghettoboyd]

No issues with you Boyd. I said was I was thinking and now it’s over.

fair enough man lets let this thread die everyone ,please...

[MILKMAN73]

Doesn't anyone just do coke anymore? J/k!

[JSom]

I take BSN Amino X, good stuff, it works. And I cannot advise anyone exactly this, because I don’t know if they have any health problems. But I can recommend looking at the options here https://gym-expert.com/best-stimulant-free-pre-workout/. This site has reviews for other pre-workout supplements as well. There are those without creatine, etc. You have to watch and try.

[META99]

I like ester free test for my preworkout


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